X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 20 Mar 2009 11:43:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s2.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.138] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3552150 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 18 Mar 2009 21:47:01 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.138; envelope-from=joscales98@hotmail.com Received: from BAY124-DS1 ([207.46.11.156]) by bay0-omc2-s2.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 18 Mar 2009 18:46:25 -0700 X-Originating-IP: [75.81.226.134] X-Originating-Email: [joscales98@hotmail.com] X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: joscales98@hotmail.com From: "Jim Scales" X-Original-To: "Lancair List" Subject: More info on TSA issues X-Original-Date: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:46:21 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9A80A.982EE800" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.60.0053.2200 Seal-Send-Time: Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:46:21 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 19 Mar 2009 01:46:25.0156 (UTC) FILETIME=[834F7C40:01C9A834] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9A80A.982EE800 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I sent an inquiry to AOPA about the TSA proposed policies. Here is the = answer I received. Not great. Hope it gets better. Sounds like they = are running into the same stone wall that has been described on this = site. Jim -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------ Mr. Scales, Thank you for contacting the Pilot Information Center. Security = Directive 1542-04-8F was issued to airport administration at airports = with commercial airline service to increase badging requirements for = tenants at employees based at that airport. The security directive = should not affect you as a transient pilot to these airports, although = you may notice stricter "escort" supervision as you enter and leave the = ramp area.=20 =20 AOPA has been involved with this issue since early December when the SD = was issued. However, we are experiencing less than friendly contacts = with the TSA. Because AOPA is not an airport with commercial airline = service ("not the regulated party"), most information, including the = actual SD itself has been withheld from us. I can assure that our Vice = President of GA Security, Craig Spence, has worked on this issue on a = daily basis for months and we will continue to make sure that the GA = community is not ignored. =20 At this time, we encourage pilots to contact their congressmen about = this issue and ask that TSA to not ignore the pleas of the general = aviation community. Make sure that they are specifying the security = directive (not to be confused with LASP).=20 =20 Here is a direct link to writing your Representative: = https://writerep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml Senator: = http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm Please let me know if I can be of further assistance.=20 Tailwinds and best regards,=20 Tom Kramer Aviation Technical Specialist=20 AOPA Pilot Information Center=20 --- Original Message Below --- This is an Info Request from the AOPA Website. The following information was provided: Name: Jim Scales Request: I participate in an online chat site for Lancairs. Recently there has = been a lot of discussion about a new TSA procedure that is supposed to = be implemented in a couple of months. There have been a couple of = meetings between affected airport groups and the TSA people. These = meetings have revealed very bad policies and extremely cumbersome = regulations that are potentially going to apply to GA. Supposedly any airport served by commercial air service will have to = have a secure ramp and airport access. This will involve background = checks and badges for everyone who has access to the airport. If this = was not bad enough, each airport will be required to do its own = background check and issue its own badges. Try to imagine what a quagmire that will lead to. Also, think about the = safety issues of low fuel or weather issues causing a pilot to choose = between going into an airport for which he has no badge and going to = jail, or trying to stretch fuel or challenge weather in order to get to = an airport for which he has a badge. If this is indeed happening it can absolutely kill GA. =20 I have not yet seen anything on this from AOPA. Please check into it. Thanks. Jim Scales ------=_NextPart_000_001D_01C9A80A.982EE800 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I sent an inquiry to AOPA about the TSA proposed policies.  = Here is=20 the answer I received.  Not great.  Hope it gets better.  = Sounds=20 like they are running into the same stone wall that has been described = on this=20 site.
 
Jim
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Mr. Scales,

Thank you for contacting the Pilot Information=20 Center.  Security Directive 1542-04-8F was issued to airport = administration=20 at airports with commercial airline service to increase badging = requirements for=20 tenants at employees based at that airport.  The security directive = should=20 not affect you as a transient pilot to these airports, although you may = notice=20 stricter "escort" supervision as you enter and leave the ramp area.=20
 
AOPA has been involved with this issue since early = December when=20 the SD was issued.  However, we are experiencing less than friendly = contacts with the TSA.  Because AOPA is not an airport with = commercial=20 airline service ("not the regulated party"), most information, including = the=20 actual SD itself has been withheld from us.  I can assure that our = Vice=20 President of GA Security, Craig Spence, has worked on this issue on a = daily=20 basis for months and we will continue to make sure that the GA community = is not=20 ignored.
 
At this time, we encourage pilots to contact their = congressmen about this issue and ask that TSA to not  ignore the = pleas of=20 the general aviation community.  Make sure that they are specifying = the=20 security directive (not to be confused with LASP).
 
Here is = a=20 direct link to writing your Representative: https://writer= ep.house.gov/writerep/welcome.shtml
Senator:=20 http://www.senate.gov/general/contact_information/senators_cfm.cfm=

Please=20 let me know if I can be of further assistance.
Tailwinds and best = regards,=20

Tom Kramer
Aviation Technical Specialist
AOPA Pilot = Information=20 Center

--- Original Message Below ---



This is an = Info=20 Request from the AOPA Website.
The following information was=20 provided:

Name: Jim Scales
Request:
I participate in an online chat site for = Lancairs. =20 Recently there has been a lot of discussion about a new TSA procedure = that is=20 supposed to be implemented in a couple of months.  There have been = a couple=20 of meetings between affected airport groups and the TSA people.  = These=20 meetings have revealed very bad policies and extremely cumbersome = regulations=20 that are potentially going to apply to GA.

Supposedly any airport = served=20 by commercial air service will have to have a secure ramp and airport=20 access.  This will involve background checks and badges for = everyone who=20 has access to the airport.  If this was not bad enough, each = airport will=20 be required to do its own background check and issue its own = badges.

Try=20 to imagine what a quagmire that will lead to.  Also, think about = the safety=20 issues of low fuel or weather issues causing a pilot to choose between = going=20 into an airport for which he has no badge and going to jail, or trying = to=20 stretch fuel or challenge weather in order to get to an airport for = which he has=20 a badge.

If this is indeed happening it can absolutely kill = GA. =20

I have not yet seen anything on this from AOPA.  Please = check into=20 it.

Thanks.

Jim = Scales





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