X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 19:20:18 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.62] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.13) with ESMTP id 3549534 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:16:39 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.62; envelope-from=artbertolina@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=lQIs3Y1a4bcBZZsm6gp5iPMCmZN1ziJC4+OQA3P3VeB7yecHHvEjlCwPMyJX6seE; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [71.104.154.59] (helo=LAPTOP2) by elasmtp-dupuy.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1LjL6K-00074O-Aa for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 16 Mar 2009 18:16:04 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <004201c9a684$cacdd230$b600000a@LAPTOP2> From: "Art Bertolina" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP) X-Original-Date: Mon, 16 Mar 2009 15:16:01 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-ELNK-Trace: 1c57f4aab304e4a6fc8cc707cfd6285a4d2b10475b571120e909d8306f0968298f24b52308f1acad1b5b5c81924508f2350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 71.104.154.59 John I attended the APS Seminar as well. For learning about how my engine operates the best money I have ever spent. It has been a couple of years and probable should take a refresher. Art ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Schroeder" To: Sent: Sunday, March 15, 2009 3:53 PM Subject: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP) > Art - > > They teach, in the APS Seminar, Wide Open Throttle (WOT) all the time and > vary the mixture in the LOP range and rpm for speed. They are having a > live seminar in early May in Ada, OK if anyone is interested. I highly > recommend it. IMHO, it is the most cost-effective insurance one can have > with respect to the care and running of your engine. You can also take it > on line. I have not done that one. George, Walter and John - all have > taken IO & TSIO 550's to factory recommended overhaul times and sometimes > beyond; with little or no cylinder problems. I may not be completely > accurate on this last statement, but close. Another point is that the > turbo temperature is a key indicator for setting and running LOP. I did > not have a turbo, so I did not pay close attention to this part of the > seminar. > > My apologies to Walter, George and John if I have mis-stated something > here. Just trying to get folks to your seminar. :-)) > > John Schroeder > > > > > On Sat, 14 Mar 2009 07:32:47 -0400, Art Bertolina > wrote: > >> Re: [LML] LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP)would like to hear >> what George or Walter could add to >> this conversation. It was my understanding that higher RPM >> is better for the engine, as long as the prop is not driving >> engine >> Art >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Colyn Case at earthlink >> To: lml@lancaironline.net >> Sent: Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:30 PM >> Subject: [LML] Re: LOP vs ROP Climb: Time and Fuel Burn (LIVP) >> >> >> Chuck said, >> So, if you are going to reduce power, between MP or RPM, it is better >> to reduce MP since higher RPM keeps PP lower, at least that was their >> general conclusion, supported by engine shop experience. >> >> I agree at high power settings for the reasons cited, but once you >> get down to cruise power settings, if you are going to reduce power >> further, reducing rpm removes some friction component while reducing mp >> does not. therefore you should get better mileage by lowering rpm. > > > > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >