X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 21:51:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from iron9.midco.net ([24.220.0.97] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.12) with ESMTP id 3512740 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 23 Feb 2009 20:25:24 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=24.220.0.97; envelope-from=zoelt@sio.midco.net X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: ArsgAHfbokkY3KiHPGdsb2JhbACCRiuHQYkqewEBAQE1AcAxhBEG X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.38,256,1233554400"; d="gif'147?scan'147,208,217,147";a="280099818" Received: from host-135-168-220-24.midco.net (HELO YOUR105B4D3942) ([24.220.168.135]) by out.vip.midco.net with ESMTP; 23 Feb 2009 19:24:47 -0600 From: X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: Subject: RE: [LML] Deice for the IV X-Original-Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2009 19:23:37 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <000001c9961e$849396e0$6401a8c0@YOUR105B4D3942> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0001_01C995EC.39F926E0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 Thread-Index: AcmVtry/XK4REn8jTiqIIsDlrIIttQAZIypQ In-Reply-To: X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3350 X-Antivirus: avast! (VPS 090223-0, 02/23/2009), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C995EC.39F926E0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_0002_01C995EC.39F926E0" ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C995EC.39F926E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Michael, I have a lifetime of experience with the Thermawing and RDD enterprises in the last year. In short They charged me several thousand dollars over the agreed price because my IVP was a nonstandard Configuration(battery on the right firewall, standby alternator, etc) They created several thousand dollars worth of squaks my local shop had to fix when I got the plane back and refuse to accept responsibility claiming they didn't pull avionics connections loose when they pulled wires through my firewall and didn'tleave wires disconnected to pitot heat and aileron servos, etc, etc. They refuse to negotiate these expenses saying I should have returned the aircraft them or the costs for local repair were too high (lower shop rate than they charge). Kelly Aerospace customer support refuses to help simply forewarding my complaints to RDD. My recourse is to Sue them from a thousand miles away or simply tell my story when people ask. I Have many friends who have RVs who say they're selling the Thermawing for the RV 10. I'll tell my story there as well. I thought there was an east-coast installer as well but people at the HPAT training seminar say no. OH, by the way the system still doesn't work and advertised. Tim, LNCIVP, 524JG _____ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Michael D. Smith Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 7:01 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Deice for the IV Does anyone have experience adding on deice for the IV, either the expulsive or thermal system? Could you please contact me? Thanks in advance. Michael Smith ------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C995EC.39F926E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Michael,

I have a lifetime of experience with the Thermawing = and RDD enterprises in the last year.

In short They charged me several thousand dollars = over the agreed price because my IVP was a nonstandard

Configuration(battery on the right firewall, standby = alternator, etc)

They created several thousand dollars worth of squaks = my local shop had to fix when I got the plane back and refuse to accept = responsibility claiming they didn’t pull avionics connections loose when they pulled wires = through my firewall and didn’tleave wires disconnected to pitot heat and = aileron servos, etc, etc.

They refuse to negotiate these expenses saying I = should have returned the aircraft them or the costs for local repair were too high = (lower shop rate than they charge).

Kelly Aerospace customer support refuses to help = simply forewarding my complaints to RDD.

My recourse is to Sue them from a thousand miles away = or simply tell my story when people ask.

I Have many friends who have RVs who say = they’re selling the Thermawing for the RV 10. I’ll tell my story there as = well.

I thought there was an east-coast installer as well = but people at the HPAT training seminar say no.

OH, by the way the system still doesn’t work = and advertised.

Tim,

LNCIVP, 524JG

From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Michael D. Smith
Sent: Monday, February = 23, 2009 7:01 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Deice for = the IV

Does anyone = have experience adding on deice for the IV, either the expulsive or thermal = system?

<= /o:p>

Could you = please contact me?

<= /o:p>

Thanks in = advance.

<= /o:p>

Michael = Smith

------=_NextPart_001_0002_01C995EC.39F926E0-- ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C995EC.39F926E0 Content-Type: image/gif; name="image001.gif" Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-ID: R0lGODlhFAAUAPcAAP//////zP//mf//Zv//M///AP/M///MzP/Mmf/MZv/MM//MAP+Z//+ZzP+Z mf+ZZv+ZM/+ZAP9m//9mzP9mmf9mZv9mM/9mAP8z//8zzP8zmf8zZv8zM/8zAP8A//8AzP8Amf8A Zv8AM/8AAMz//8z/zMz/mcz/Zsz/M8z/AMzM/8zMzMzMmczMZszMM8zMAMyZ/8yZzMyZmcyZZsyZ M8yZAMxm/8xmzMxmmcxmZsxmM8xmAMwz/8wzzMwzmcwzZswzM8wzAMwA/8wAzMwAmcwAZswAM8wA AJn//5n/zJn/mZn/Zpn/M5n/AJnM/5nMzJnMmZnMZpnMM5nMAJmZ/5mZzJmZmZmZZpmZM5mZAJlm /5lmzJlmmZlmZplmM5lmAJkz/5kzzJkzmZkzZpkzM5kzAJkA/5kAzJkAmZkAZpkAM5kAAGb//2b/ zGb/mWb/Zmb/M2b/AGbM/2bMzGbMmWbMZmbMM2bMAGaZ/2aZzGaZmWaZZmaZM2aZAGZm/2ZmzGZm mWZmZmZmM2ZmAGYz/2YzzGYzmWYzZmYzM2YzAGYA/2YAzGYAmWYAZmYAM2YAADP//zP/zDP/mTP/ ZjP/MzP/ADPM/zPMzDPMmTPMZjPMMzPMADOZ/zOZzDOZmTOZZjOZMzOZADNm/zNmzDNmmTNmZjNm MzNmADMz/zMzzDMzmTMzZjMzMzMzADMA/zMAzDMAmTMAZjMAMzMAAAD//wD/zAD/mQD/ZgD/MwD/ AADM/wDMzADMmQDMZgDMMwDMAACZ/wCZzACZmQCZZgCZMwCZAABm/wBmzABmmQBmZgBmMwBmAAAz /wAzzAAzmQAzZgAzMwAzAAAA/wAAzAAAmQAAZgAAMwAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACwAAAAAFAAUAEAIQwBJCBxI sKBBAAgTKlyYUCDDhwsdQpwoceLDihYjksh4cSNHjR9BhmzocSQAjCFRflTJkWVGlxZhUiw5UiZE gzhzBgQAOw== ------=_NextPart_000_0001_01C995EC.39F926E0--