X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 30 Nov 2008 09:20:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [69.146.254.20] (HELO arilabs.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.10) with ESMTP id 3323277 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 29 Nov 2008 22:33:44 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=69.146.254.20; envelope-from=Kevin@arilabs.net Subject: Recommended starter motors for IO-55 (was Starter adapter drive) MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Date: Sat, 29 Nov 2008 20:33:07 -0700 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message X-Original-Message-ID: <7141427652BB3049A7DBF1084B67805B1E2CD6@penumbra.arilabs.net> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: Recommended starter motors for IO-55 (was Starter adapter drive) Thread-Index: AclShb/fK2X3luo6TSWmf+YPReKyLAAFl7uQ From: "Kevin Stallard" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" What other starter motors are available that do not beat up the starter adapters as bad? Thanks Kevin -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Kent Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 5:51 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Re: Subject:,Starter adapter drive hello The TCM starter adaptors are stressed by the permanent magnet motors, like=20 the Iskra brand and others. The permanent magnet motors have high starting torque and more importantly=20 do not relax after being de-enegized. The start adaptor needs to be able=20 to unwind a bit to totally disengage. Aircraft Specialties Services found it was being blamed for warranty=20 problems that they knew was not their fault. So they made a cutaway starter=20 adaptor and made video of the mechanism on a running engine. regards Kent Felkins Tulsa ----- Original Message -----=20 From: "Douglas Brunner" To: Sent: Friday, November 28, 2008 2:25 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Subject:,Starter adapter drive >I also had to replace the starter drive adapter on my IO-550 (non turbo) > after about 50 hours. In my installation we only had to loosen the bolts > holding the engine, not pull the engine. > > I have heard from a number of people about starter drive adapter=20 > problems - > I think it is fairly common. In talking with Allen Barrett of Barrett > Precision Engines about this problem, he said that not all starters are > equal with respect to causing this problem. > > I would be interested in hearing from him what the data suggest about=20 > which > are the best and worst starters with respect to the starter drive adapter. > > D. Brunner > > ----- Original Message -----=20 > From: "Micah Froese" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, November 26, 2008 7:01 PM > Subject: [LML] Re: Subject:,Starter adapter drive > >> Dan, >> >> I had the pleasure of replacing this after the first 50 hours of flying=20 >> on >> my Legacy. Even though the engine had to come off, it wasn't as bad as I >> thought it would be. We first removed the bolts holding the starter on, >> and then removed the 4 bolts holding the engine. With the engine=20 >> swinging >> form the hoist, we were able to remove the starter without taking the >> engine completely off. Actually only took an hour or so. >> >> Micah Froese >> Lancair Legacy >> Performance Engines 10-550-EXP >> 300 hours >> >> >> >> Has anyone ever replaced a starter adapter drive on a TSIO550? (this has >> the turbo scavenger pump on the back of it) >> >> I currently have the problem of the starter motor running but the prop=20 >> not >> turning past a compression stroke. I am told that the whole assembly has >> to come off the back of the engine and the shaft and spring replaced or >> rebuilt. The problem I have on the IV is the distance from the back of >> the shaft to the firewall is only 2 or 3 inches. I don't think this is >> enough room to slide the assembly out. Will the engine have to be moved >> forward to remove this assembly? >> >> Any help would be greatly appreciated. >> >> Dan Reagan >> Lancair IVP 570 hours >> >> >> >> -- >> For archives and unsub >> http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html >> > > > -- > For archives and unsub=20 > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.9.11/1817 - Release Date: 11/28/2008=20 8:17 AM -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html