As John and Mark stated we are in this to improve on the Lancair safety issues, preserve our ability to get affordable insurance, protect our group from unreasonable governmental regulations and squeeze in some fun, to boot. None of us will see a penny go into our personal pockets but we have all seen a considerable outlay in?time and expenses. What is great is that many Lancair owners, pilots, builders and others share our enthusiasm and have not only joined LOBO but have volunteered to?take the bull by the horn and help in any way they can.?We are looking for a few good folks!

Best Regards,

Jeff Edwards

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From: Halle, John <JJHALLE@stoel.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, 3 Nov 2008 6:25 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy -AOPA article



Well, OK -- as the guy who formed the thing, I'll bite.  As noted, there are no
stockholders in a nonprofit and therefore no one to pay dividends to.  No
problem -- all we have to do is hire ourselves for exhorbitant salaries to work
for the nonprofit.  Gee, wonder why we didn't think of that.  Could it be that
some of us are actually concerned about safety in our community and want to do
something about it?

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From: vonjet@gmail.com [mailto:vonjet@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 11/2/2008 4:29 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy -AOPA
article


Before you get excited about nonprofit.
Nonprofit doesnt mean they cant charge you excessive amounts of money for
anything they offer.
There are all sorts of ways they can call the income other things than profit.
Just look at NBAA. They are a .org and if you knew what it costs to advertise at
a convention they put on or to have a booth at one of their shows you would
flip. Not to mention admission fees just to attend. Nonprofit? They are probably
one of the most profitable organizations.
Or maybe they call profit: funds.




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From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:10:09 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA
article


I think the best part about this is that it's "nonprofit."  The last place I
think anyone should be profiting in is Lancair education and training and flight
testing.

I'm sick and tired of the "what's your life worth?" - argument.   With that
argument, why not pay ten milllion dollars for training?  Because it's a stupid
argument - that's why.
Finally, we have a group truly interesting in safety, not money.  No one has a
problem paying for ACTUAL expenses when it comes to training, it's the $5000/hr
approach that steers people away.
Above all, hopefully this group will promote common sense, which is priceless.

Matt


By By AOPA ePublishing staff
A new nonprofit organization for Lancair owners and builders will focus on
promoting the safe use of Lancair aircraft and emphasize owner, operator, and
builder education and training, according to the group's founders.
Recently started by a small group of Lancair enthusiasts and endorsed by Lancair
International Inc., the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization, or LOBO
<http://www.lancairowners.com/> , also hopes to build partnerships with
insurance companies and work closely with regulatory agencies.
"Coupled with better communication between our members and insurance providers,
improved safety will help our members better control skyrocketing operating
costs," said LOBO co-founder Bob Pastusek.
Lancairs have been involved in what the FAA labeled a "disproportionate" number
of fatal accidents, including seven fatal accidents between February and July of
this year. See AOPA Air Safety Foundation Executive Director Bruce Landsberg's
blog <http://blog.aopa.org/asfblog/?m=200807>  on the subject and share your
opinions.


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