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ok... (LOL) you had me on that one!!!!


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From: Kevin Kossi <kevin@airforcemechanical.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 7:02 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Lost a wing and landed


Jeff,



I was kidding... but given?enough?horsepower verses weight and a big enough rudder and elevator maybe it can happen.

I have seen prop. planes hover?standing?straight?up. Although I'm not trying it.

I guess the best bet is to try it on a model plane first.




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nzY1Q4gea8










Kevin




On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:25 PM, VTAILJEFF@aol.com wrote:


Kevin,

Just for fun, explain to me how "anyone" could do that maneuver?

;)?? Jeff




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From: Kevin Kossi <kevin@airforcemechanical.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 6:29 pm
Subject: [LML] Re: Lost a wing and landed


Lynn, 



Yes looking at it later, I can see how it is pieced?together.

But I am sure, if anyone had to really do that?maneuver, you could!.










Kevin




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On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:10 PM, farnsworth wrote:





Kevin,

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I do believe there is an R/C plane involved in this pieced together video.

?

Lynn Farnsworth

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I can't?believe?this!



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Says?allot?for "fly the plane first".



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ok... (LOL) you had me on that one!!!!<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kevin Kossi &lt;kevin@airforcemechanical.com&gt;<br>
To: lml@lancaironline.net<br>
Sent: Tue, 4 Nov 2008 7:02 pm<br>
Subject: [LML] Re: Lost a wing and landed<br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_2_d5f81699-84f2-4713-9c2b-33a42e8b75a4>Jeff,

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<div>I was kidding... but given&nbsp;enough&nbsp;horsepower verses weight and a big enough rudder and elevator maybe it can happen.</div>


<div>I have seen prop. planes hover&nbsp;standing&nbsp;straight&nbsp;up. Although I'm not trying it.</div>


<div>I guess the best bet is to try it on a model plane first.</div>


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<div><A href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nzY1Q4gea8" target=_blank>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nzY1Q4gea8</A></div>


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<div>Kevin</div>


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<div>On Nov 3, 2008, at 7:25 PM, <A href="mailto:VTAILJEFF@aol.com">VTAILJEFF@aol.com</A> wrote:</div>
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Just for fun, explain to me how "anyone" could do that maneuver?<br>
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-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Kevin Kossi &lt;<A href="mailto:kevin@airforcemechanical.com">kevin@airforcemechanical.com</A>&gt;<br>
To: <A href="mailto:lml@lancaironline.net">lml@lancaironline.net</A><br>
Sent: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 6:29 pm<br>
Subject: [LML] Re: Lost a wing and landed<br>
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<div id=AOLMsgPart_2_b3950823-7412-473f-ae6f-7e1671ae068b>Lynn, 

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<div>Yes looking at it later, I can see how it is pieced&nbsp;together.</div>


<div>But I am sure, if anyone had to really do that&nbsp;maneuver, you could!.</div>


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<div>On Oct 31, 2008, at 12:10 PM, farnsworth wrote:</div>
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