Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #49334
From: Ken <kkellner1@new.rr.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy -AOPA article
Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:26:19 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

Before we get to concerned about non profits making to much "profit", or LOBO replacing the LML (which doesn't appear to be the intent).  I'm willing to give it a shot.  Most Bonanza owners I have talked to seem the think the ABS has been good for Bonanza owners.  Same thing with the Piper Owner Society for Piper drivers.   If we can build something similar why not.  For the initial cost of a $40 membership I am willing to put off that trip to Tahiti one more year to save up.  Maybe at some point in the future we will have an advocacy group with  members that value being members, which is my definition of a successful organization.
 
Ken Kellner
IV-P  14LK
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, November 02, 2008 6:29 PM
Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy -AOPA article

Before you get excited about nonprofit.
Nonprofit doesnt mean they cant charge you excessive amounts of money for anything they offer.
There are all sorts of ways they can call the income other things than profit.
Just look at NBAA. They are a .org and if you knew what it costs to advertise at a convention they put on or to have a booth at one of their shows you would flip. Not to mention admission fees just to attend. Nonprofit? They are probably one of the most profitable organizations.
Or maybe they call profit: funds.


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From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:10:09 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA article

A new nonprofit organization for Lancair owners and builders will focus on promoting the safe use of Lancair aircraft and emphasize owner, operator, and builder education and training, according to the group’s founders.
Recently started by a small group of Lancair enthusiasts and endorsed by Lancair International Inc., the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization, or LOBO, also hopes to build partnerships with insurance companies and work closely with regulatory agencies.
“Coupled with better communication between our members and insurance providers, improved safety will help our members better control skyrocketing operating costs,” said LOBO co-founder Bob Pastusek.
Lancairs have been involved in what the FAA labeled a “disproportionate” number of fatal accidents, including seven fatal accidents between February and July of this year. See AOPA Air Safety Foundation Executive Director Bruce Landsberg’s blog on the subject and share your opinions.

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