X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 03 Nov 2008 19:25:57 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp-ext-04.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net ([206.210.69.144] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTPS id 3250808 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:45:07 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.210.69.144; envelope-from=rpastusek@htii.com Received: from dlhtpax009 (static-71-178-198-10.washdc.fios.verizon.net [71.178.198.10]) by smtp-ext-04.mx.pitdc1.expedient.net (Postfix) with ESMTPA id 01B71E4874 for ; Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:44:30 -0500 (EST) Reply-To: From: "Robert Pastusek" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] flying to dc X-Original-Date: Sun, 2 Nov 2008 23:44:27 -0500 Organization: Holmes-Tucker International, Inc. X-Original-Message-ID: <034401c93d6e$da8dc1f0$8fa945d0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Ack9SzxIZRVZ/G95RA27gDyLxcmBKwAG+R2Q Content-Language: en-us David W writes: any suggestions on best place to fly into dc-going to steelers/redskins game(GO STEELERS!!!!!) mon nt and going to stay in dc. have flown into kgai many times before but would rather be closer but want a reasonable runway length. not many options. anyone ever fly into reagan? David, I live in Arlington, VA and fly my IV-P in the local area out of Manassas, VA (HEF). Here's my best shot. Although it is technically possible to fly into Reagan National Airport in a private plane, as a practical matter, forget it... First, you need to be pre-screened and issued a special authorization to fly within the 15 NM circle around the capitol (technically called the Flight Restricted Zone, or FRZ). A second requirement to fly in to Reagan is that you stop at a designated feeder airport and pick up a Sky Marshall to accompany you. You incur the cost, including the cost to return him to his departure point. Don't even think about "just doing it" if you value your right to fly airplanes--the local enforcement agencies (I think there are at least three) compete for the right to catch and prosecute violators. There are three very small airports, Potomac (VKX), Hyde and College Park that are also within the FRZ. It's possible to get pre-screened to operate into these fields, but not in the time you have available. They are also marginally long enough to accommodate an IV-PT. I have permission to do so, but have not had my IV-P into any of them because of the short runways. I'd recommend you consider Manassas (HEF) first, then Stafford (RMN), Dulles (IAD) and Baltimore (BWI) in that order. Manassas is our most capable GA airport in the area, and is well served by rental car companies and amenities. It, IAD, and BWI are within the Washington Air Defense Identification Zone (ADIZ) and you'll need to file an IFR or VFR clearance to be allowed into the ADIZ. Specifically, you must be squawking a discrete, assigned transponder code and be talking to Potomac Approach Control to operate within the ADIZ--IFR or VFR. (The FRZ is a smaller circle within this larger ADIZ that requires additional justification and clearance to enter. Stay well clear of the FRZ unless specifically vectored by ATC--I have never seen them do this) Dulles and Baltimore have GA facilities on the field, but they charge significant landing and tie down fees. Their cost for fuel will also make you wish you owned the refinery! Their main advantage is ready availability of public transportation, but like Manassas, they have rental cars readily available. All three are relatively the same distance/time from downtown DC. Stafford (RMN) is south of town, and just outside the ADIZ. New airport and inexpensive. Almost no amenities on the field yet; you'll want to be sure to reserve a rental car to be delivered there before arrival as there is no commercial transportation on the field. The local FBO at (540) 658-1212 can arrange. Strongly recommend you study the NOTAMS and complete the FAA's on-line course for operating in this area before you come. This will become a binding requirement early next year, but for now they just violate you for infractions... Find the course at www.faa.gov. Select Pilots//Training//More Training Information, and when you're there, go to "Online Training for Pilots: Washington ADIZ and TFRs" All this sounds pretty intimidating, and it can be. You need to research and make a more thorough plan than you probably do for local flying. I'd recommend you file and fly IFR for your first trip into the area. Potomac Approach assumes some responsibility for keeping you out of trouble (did I mention the Prohibited Area P-40 north of town, as well as several restricted areas within and around the ADIZ?) They will also clear you into the ADIZ, or send you elsewhere if there is a problem with your ADIZ clearance. I'd recommend your plan include an alternate outside the ADIZ, such as Stafford, Warrenton, or St Mary's County (MD) just in case they are having a bad hair day and don't want to let you land where you'd like to--it happens! Drop me an email to rpastusek@htii.com if you'd like to discuss this further. Hope this helps. BOB