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Well, OK -- as the guy who formed the thing, I'll bite.  As noted, there =
are no stockholders in a nonprofit and therefore no one to pay dividends =
to.  No problem -- all we have to do is hire ourselves for exhorbitant =
salaries to work for the nonprofit.  Gee, wonder why we didn't think of =
that.  Could it be that some of us are actually concerned about safety =
in our community and want to do something about it?

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From: vonjet@gmail.com [mailto:vonjet@gmail.com]
Sent: Sun 11/2/2008 4:29 PM
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Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy =
-AOPA article


Before you get excited about nonprofit.
Nonprofit doesnt mean they cant charge you excessive amounts of money =
for anything they offer.=20
There are all sorts of ways they can call the income other things than =
profit.=20
Just look at NBAA. They are a .org and if you knew what it costs to =
advertise at a convention they put on or to have a booth at one of their =
shows you would flip. Not to mention admission fees just to attend. =
Nonprofit? They are probably one of the most profitable organizations.=20
Or maybe they call profit: funds.


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From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 12:10:09 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Subject: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - =
AOPA article


I think the best part about this is that it's "nonprofit."  The last =
place I think anyone should be profiting in is Lancair education and =
training and flight testing. =20

I'm sick and tired of the "what's your life worth?" - argument.   With =
that argument, why not pay ten milllion dollars for training?  Because =
it's a stupid argument - that's why.
Finally, we have a group truly interesting in safety, not money.  No one =
has a problem paying for ACTUAL expenses when it comes to training, it's =
the $5000/hr approach that steers people away.
Above all, hopefully this group will promote common sense, which is =
priceless.

Matt


By By AOPA ePublishing staff
A new nonprofit organization for Lancair owners and builders will focus =
on promoting the safe use of Lancair aircraft and emphasize owner, =
operator, and builder education and training, according to the group's =
founders.
Recently started by a small group of Lancair enthusiasts and endorsed by =
Lancair International Inc., the Lancair Owners and Builders =
Organization, or LOBO <http://www.lancairowners.com/> , also hopes to =
build partnerships with insurance companies and work closely with =
regulatory agencies.
"Coupled with better communication between our members and insurance =
providers, improved safety will help our members better control =
skyrocketing operating costs," said LOBO co-founder Bob Pastusek.
Lancairs have been involved in what the FAA labeled a "disproportionate" =
number of fatal accidents, including seven fatal accidents between =
February and July of this year. See AOPA Air Safety Foundation Executive =
Director Bruce Landsberg's blog =
<http://blog.aopa.org/asfblog/?m=3D200807>  on the subject and share =
your opinions.