X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 02 Nov 2008 19:29:15 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m24.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.5] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.9) with ESMTP id 3247815 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:02:09 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m24.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v39.1.) id q.d22.2cbdc360 (37036) for ; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:02:09 -0400 (EDT) Received: from Webmail-mg09 (webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com [64.12.142.157]) by cia-db02.mx.aol.com (v121_r4.4) with ESMTP id MAILCIADB026-90ac490b3a1112f; Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:02:09 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA article X-Original-Date: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:02:09 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.211.84.40 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CB09918BA00BD0_8B0_1727_Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 39598-STANDARD Received: from 76.211.84.40 by Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com (64.12.142.157) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Fri, 31 Oct 2008 13:02:09 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CB09918B9DA96A-8B0-B31@Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CB09918BA00BD0_8B0_1727_Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" we should say "negative profit" since the formation of this is coming out of= hide right now.... Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Matt Reeves To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:10 am Subject: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA=20= article I think the best part about this is that it's "nonprofit."=C2=A0 The last pl= ace I think anyone should be profiting in is Lancair education and training=20= and flight testing.=C2=A0=20 I'm sick and tired of the "what's your life worth?" - argument. =C2=A0 With=20= that argument, why not pay ten milllion dollars for training?=C2=A0 Because=20= it's a stupid argument - that's why. Finally, we have a group truly interesting in safety, not money.=C2=A0 No on= e has a problem paying for ACTUAL expenses when it comes to training, it's t= he $5000/hr approach that steers people away. Above all, hopefully this group will promote common sense, which is priceles= s. Matt By By AOPA ePublishing staff A new nonprofit organization for Lancair owners and builders will focus on p= romoting the safe use of Lancair aircraft and emphasize owner, operator, and= builder education and training, according to the group=E2=80=99s founders. Recently started by a small group of Lancair enthusiasts and endorsed by Lan= cair International Inc., the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization, or LO= BO, also hopes to build partnerships with insurance companies and work close= ly with regulatory agencies. =E2=80=9CCoupled with better communication between our members and insurance= providers, improved safety will help our members better control skyrocketin= g operating costs,=E2=80=9D said LOBO co-founder Bob Pastusek. Lancairs have been involved in what the FAA labeled a =E2=80=9Cdisproportion= ate=E2=80=9D number of fatal accidents, including seven fatal accidents betw= een February and July of this year. See AOPA Air Safety Foundation Executive= Director Bruce Landsberg=E2=80=99s blog on the subject and share your opini= ons. ----------MB_8CB09918BA00BD0_8B0_1727_Webmail-mg09.sim.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" we should say "negative profit" since the formation of this is coming out of= hide right now....

Jeff


-----Original Message-----
From: Matt Reeves <mattreeves@yahoo.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Fri, 31 Oct 2008 11:10 am
Subject: [LML] Lancair owners form organization for safety, advocacy - AOPA=20= article

I think the best part abou= t this is that it's "nonprofit."  The last place I think anyone should be profiting in is Lanc= air education and training and flight testing. 
I'm sick and tired of the=20= "what's your life worth?" - argument.   With that argument, why not pay= ten milllion dollars for training?  Because it's a stupid argument - t= hat's why.
Finally, we have a group t= ruly interesting in safety, not money.  No one has a problem paying for= ACTUAL expenses when it comes to training, it's the $5000/hr approach that=20= steers people away.
Above all, hopefully this=20= group will promote common sense, which is priceless.
Matt

By By AOPA ePublishing staff
A new nonprofit organization for Lancair owners and builders will focus= on promoting the safe use of Lancair aircraft and emphasize owner, operator= , and builder education and training, according to the group=E2=80=99s found= ers.
Recently started by a small group of Lancair enthusiasts and endorsed b= y Lancair International Inc., the Lancair Owners and Builders Organization, or LOBO, also=20= hopes to build partnerships with insurance companies and work closely with r= egulatory agencies.
=E2=80=9CCoupled with better communication between our members and insu= rance providers, improved safety will help our members better control skyroc= keting operating costs,=E2=80=9D said LOBO co-founder Bob Pastusek.
Lancairs have been involved in what the FAA labeled a =E2=80=9Cdispropo= rtionate=E2=80=9D number of fatal accidents, including seven fatal accidents= between February and July of this year. See AOPA Air Safety Foundation Exec= utive Director Bruce Landsberg=E2=80=99s blog on the subject and share your o= pinions.

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