X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 16:29:55 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.16] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3094561 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 13:01:37 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.62.16; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.62.44]) by QMTA01.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 74BU1a02C0xGWP85150zzu; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:00:59 +0000 Received: from [10.128.88.223] ([206.191.160.125]) by OMTA12.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net with comcast id 750n1a00d2idoaN3Y50r5j; Tue, 26 Aug 2008 17:00:57 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=h-U4QPP1FzAA:10 a=G6MZUJc39IUA:10 a=iHQvVnZTZ8oIQ8XUVKQA:9 a=2b0tiLZ-VJRu1MSzy27bH6XLyBYA:4 a=EfJqPEOeqlMA:10 a=BDXKcin-EtgA:10 a=uOOLLjaM9fca-2_y2VQA:9 a=5wT1mjR8y5JLrbMSKZMA:7 a=BEWtz6GvR1h3Fan7aROwYBrLN5cA:4 a=Sz-0p1zU2dQA:10 User-Agent: Microsoft-Entourage/12.12.0.080729 X-Original-Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2008 10:00:46 -0700 Subject: Question for Bill Kennedy == thoughts on accidents "Flying slow is not for the uninformed, and maybe not for most" From: John Hafen X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List X-Original-Message-ID: Thread-Topic: Question for Bill Kennedy == thoughts on accidents "Flying slow is not for the uninformed, and maybe not for most" Thread-Index: AckHnUg9myGpNEpHikmps5XFBrUNUQ== In-Reply-To: Mime-version: 1.0 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="B_3302589655_248169" > This message is in MIME format. Since your mail reader does not understand this format, some or all of this message may not be legible. --B_3302589655_248169 Content-type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Serious question for Bill Kennedy: What do you consider =B3slow=B2 say in a IVP? Len Fox, who first flew N413AJ earlier this year, praised the plane, then told me not to fly it slow. He said, =B3Traffic pattern stalls are non-survivable.=B2 =20 Pat at HPAT taught me to do downwind at 130 (and 1500 AGL), base at 120, an= d come over the numbers at 110. For the time being, I avoid short runways. Maybe I=B9ll always avoid short runways. Are those numbers too high? Would the group recommend slower? On 8/26/08 8:48 AM, "Bill Kennedy" wrote: > "Flying slow is not for the uninformed, and maybe not for most." >=20 > Guys, if you can't fly slow, you can't fly that airplane! You need a trai= ning > or a more simple airplane. How do you handle a traffic pattern and landin= g if > you can't fly slow? If you are not able to do everything required for a > biannual, including slow flight, with proficiency, you aren't qualified t= o fly > your plane. Get training, not gadgets! >=20 --B_3302589655_248169 Content-type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-1" Content-transfer-encoding: quoted-printable Question for Bill Kennedy =3D=3D thoughts on accidents "Flying slow= is not for the uninformed, and maybe not for most" Serious question for Bill Kennedy:  What do you consider “slow&= #8221; say in a IVP?

Len Fox, who first flew N413AJ earlier this year, praised the plane, then t= old me not to fly it slow.  He said, “Traffic pattern stalls are = non-survivable.”  

Pat at HPAT taught me to do downwind at 130 (and 1500 AGL), base at 120, an= d come over the numbers at 110.  For the time being, I avoid short runw= ays.  Maybe I’ll always avoid short runways.

Are those numbers too high?  Would the group recommend slower?


On 8/26/08 8:48 AM, "Bill Kennedy" <bill_kennedy_3@hotmail.com> wrote:

&= quot;Flying slow is not for the uninformed, and maybe not for most."
Guys, if you can't fly slow, you can't fly that airplane! You need a traini= ng or a more simple airplane. How do you handle a traffic pattern and landin= g if you can't fly slow? If you are not able to do everything required for a= biannual, including slow flight, with proficiency, you aren't qualified to = fly your plane. Get training, not gadgets!

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