X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 18:14:20 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from el-out-1112.google.com ([209.85.162.177] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3092608 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:36 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.85.162.177; envelope-from=mehapgood@gmail.com Received: by el-out-1112.google.com with SMTP id z25so112156ele.7 for ; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:29:59 -0700 (PDT) DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:references:in-reply-to:subject:date:mime-version :content-type:x-mailer:thread-index:content-language:sender :message-id; b=X52hh5VTzqkgVyH1U8ukY74muw8D7r/GslN32X6Xi+5CE33Mj+kmAp0TtIxM/GmCj9 wKbN+l4S/xlQkmmlLB6SgA1WlnbGVH6LjVlEMbDsZPeXlzy+s0sXCzSnfTbsZyeVIAo+ HeRrvhtZJLgEFGTBmOF6pzxmCalIAritxrfzw= Received: by 10.114.148.2 with SMTP id v2mr3558057wad.173.1219681798289; Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:29:58 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from Dell690 ( [74.245.88.117]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 6sm6971432ywi.1.2008.08.25.09.29.56 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Mon, 25 Aug 2008 09:29:57 -0700 (PDT) From: "Matt Hapgood" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] some thoughts on accidents X-Original-Date: Mon, 25 Aug 2008 12:30:05 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_008E_01C906AE.4EECFCC0" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 thread-index: AckGzLlgFTRsIAtZStKQ1tjS3E51GQAAoIfw Content-Language: en-us X-Original-Sender: Matt Hapgood X-Original-Message-ID: <48b2de05.0609c00a.4c73.ffff8514@mx.google.com> This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C906AE.4EECFCC0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Full motion simulator that meets FAA standards for landings (like what FlightSafety has for Citations) = $8 to $10 million. Maybe less, if it's been done before and the avionics system architecture isn't terribly complicated. Could be more. Non-motion, but very high quality (like what SimCom does for Barons, etc.) = about $1.0 to $1.5 million. Matt From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Craig Berland Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:08 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] some thoughts on accidents What is the cost to set up a simulator for an aircraft? I'm familiar with the structure of a full motion simulator used by the gov for F18's but is that what is being used to train Citation pilots? I agree good simulator training would be a great addition. Craig Berland ------=_NextPart_000_008E_01C906AE.4EECFCC0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Full motion simulator that meets FAA standards for = landings (like what FlightSafety has for Citations) =3D $8 to $10 million. Maybe = less, if it’s been done before and the avionics system architecture isn’t = terribly complicated. Could be more.

Non-motion, but very high quality (like what SimCom does = for Barons, etc.) =3D about $1.0 to $1.5 million.

Matt

From:= Lancair = Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Craig = Berland
Sent: Monday, August 25, 2008 12:08 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] some thoughts on accidents

What is the cost to set up a simulator for an aircraft? I'm familiar with the structure of a full motion = simulator used by the gov for F18's but is that what is being used to train Citation pilots? I agree good simulator training would be a great = addition.

Craig Berland

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