X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:51:52 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta13.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3088328 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:14:30 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.44; envelope-from=super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com Received: from Laptop ([74.75.176.139]) by mta13.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.02 201-2131-123-102-20050715) with SMTP id <20080822131105.ERTN7723.mta13.adelphia.net@Laptop> for ; Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:11:05 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: From: "Bill Wade" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: FAA and Lancair Accidents X-Original-Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:13:54 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 I'm surprised and a bit worried that the FAA is thinking about direct action. My understanding was that Experimentals are not evaluated for flight characteristics- given the freedom to build anything that you think is a good idea plus the variation in builder skills and "customizing" I don't see how they could. Getting into that area would open up a can of worms and effectively kill the Experimental category. Type Certificated aircraft are a different story of course, with everything extensively tested and then cast in stone. My understanding was that market forces are relied on, especially insurance companies. Of course if a plane develops a reputation for killing its pilots there's a damping effect on sales as well. There was a time 10-15 years ago when Velocities experienced a number of expensive claims. In at least one case the builder excercised his first option on salvage, rebuilt the plane then promptly crashed it again, each time probably making a large profit. The insurance companies were not happy and there was a period when Velocities were uninsurable. Perhaps coincidentally, Avemco stopped writing policies for Experimentals though they had a deal with EAA. Tom P. was still endorsing them for quite a while after- I decided at that point he was no friend of mine. As I recall the factory was eventually able to come up with a program combining initial inspections by a factory rep (either an employee or a designated builder) combined with type-specific training. I believe recurrent training was also required. This was accomplished within the private sector with no regulation from the FAA. I don't know what the safety record has been once the program was put into place. -Bill Wade ----- Original Message ----- From: To: "lml" Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2008 11:01 AM Subject: [LML] Re: FAA and Lancair Accidents > > > > Posted for larry.eversmeyer@faa.gov: > > Dan, I'm also building a Legacy RG. Just last week I got a call from an > individual from FAA headquarter in Washington DC and he advised me that > the FAA has put together a group to address the high rate of Lancair > accidents. He was told that I was familiar with the Lancair and wanted > some input or suggestion on how this trend can be reversed. I have talk > to several fellow lascars folks including Joe Bartel. If you have any > suggestion please let me know. I'm trying to write up my comments and > have them done and sent to DC buy the first of next week. > Thanks > N72LE still building > Larry Eversmeyer > office 405.954.6775 > cell 405.209.3081 > > -- > For archives and unsub > http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html