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From: "Ron Galbraith" <cfi@instructor.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: some thoughts on accidents
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John,
Very well put.=20

Another issue I see as far a training goes is that of cost.  It's not
unusual to spend $400k on your airplane, but then complain about spending
$3000 for training.  If you want to get an Eclipse type rating (which by
the way is easier to fly than a LNC4), it will cost you between
$15,000-$20,000 if you are already very proficient in high performance
airplanes.  One post recently complained that an instructor was charging
$50/hr and that was outrageous so no one would use him for Bonanza
training.  This same person will spend more than $100/hr on a golf
lesson, or $75 for half hour message, or $200/hr for a dance lesson, but
then complain about how much a Lancair instructor charges.   The people
who are getting the proper training with proper instructors aren't the
ones killing themselves (with a few exceptions), and are spending
whatever it takes to get the very best instruction they can.  If you
think you can go to the local flight school and pay someone $25/hr and
feel like you got a deal then your mind set is WAY off.  Yes, this
instructor may be a very good instructor, but does he really know what to
tell you, what to say that teaches yourself about the way you fly, the
way you approach a flight, or just knowing the plane inside and out?  Let
me ask this question:   If you are diagnosed with cancer by your local
doctor who is very good at what he does, are you going to get treatment
with him?  Are you going to go to the brand new HMO cancer treatment
center so you can save some money, or are you going to go to the best
cancer center in the world to save your life no matter what they charge?=20
Well, I think the answer is obvious.

The best instructors do not teach you, they put you in a position where
you teach yourself, and that is what will stay with you.=20

Ron Galbraith


  In the seven years (and more than 700 hrs.) that I have been a part
  of the Lancair community, I have had literally hundreds of
  discussions about what is killing Lancair pilots at a totally
  unacceptable rate. I have also listened to presentations such as
  Jeff's at OSH. We all keep agreeing that there is a critical problem,
  we generally identify correctly what it is and we all profess a
  commitment to do something about it. But the accident rate continues
  to be way higher than it should be. People like Joe Bartels and Tim
  Ong are frustrated beyond description but at a loss to find anything
  effective to do about it. I suspect I can't either but, in an effort
  to do what I can, here are some thoughts generally centered around
  what I think are misperceptions that those who get into these crashes
  seem to have about their own capabilities and the capabilities of the
  aircraft (with apologies for the length.)

  1. The Aircraft
  .

  2. Us

  O

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John,<br>&nbsp;&nbsp; Very well put.&nbsp; <br><br>Another issue I see as f=
ar a training goes is that of cost.&nbsp; It's not unusual to spend $400k o=
n your airplane, but then complain about spending $3000 for training.&nbsp;=
 If you want to get an Eclipse type rating (which by the way is easier to f=
ly than a LNC4), it will cost you between $15,000-$20,000 if you are alread=
y very proficient in high performance airplanes.&nbsp; One post recently co=
mplained that an instructor was charging $50/hr and that was outrageous so =
no one would use him for Bonanza training.&nbsp; This same person will spen=
d more than $100/hr on a golf lesson, or $75 for half hour message, or $200=
/hr for a dance lesson, but then complain about how much a Lancair instruct=
or charges.&nbsp;&nbsp; The people who are getting the proper training with=
 proper instructors aren't the ones killing themselves (with a few exceptio=
ns), and are spending whatever it takes to get the very best instruction th=
ey can.&nbsp; If you think you can go to the local flight school and pay so=
meone $25/hr and feel like you got a deal then your mind set is WAY off.&nb=
sp; Yes, this instructor may be a very good instructor, but does he really =
know what to tell you, what to say that teaches yourself about the way you =
fly, the way you approach a flight, or just knowing the plane inside and ou=
t?&nbsp; Let me ask this question:&nbsp;&nbsp; If you are diagnosed with ca=
ncer by your local doctor who is very good at what he does, are you going t=
o get treatment with him?&nbsp; Are you going to go to the brand new HMO ca=
ncer treatment center so you can save some money, or are you going to go to=
 the best cancer center in the world to save your life no matter what they =
charge?&nbsp; Well, I think the answer is obvious.<br><br>The best instruct=
ors do not teach you, they put you in a position where you teach yourself, =
and that is what will stay with you.&nbsp; <br><br>Ron Galbraith<br><br><br=
><br><blockquote style=3D"border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-l=
eft: 5px; padding-left: 5px;">
In the seven years (and more than 700 hrs.) that I have been a part=20
of the Lancair community, I have had literally hundreds of=20
discussions about what is killing Lancair pilots at a totally=20
unacceptable rate.  I have also listened to presentations such as=20
Jeff's at OSH.  We all keep agreeing that there is a critical=20
problem, we generally identify correctly what it is and we all=20
profess a commitment to do something about it.  But the accident=20
rate continues to be way higher than it should be.  People like Joe=20
Bartels and Tim Ong are frustrated beyond description but at a loss=20
to find anything effective to do about it.  I suspect I can't=20
either but, in an effort to do what I can, here are some thoughts=20
generally centered around what I think are misperceptions that=20
those who get into these crashes seem to have about their own=20
capabilities and the capabilities of the aircraft (with apologies=20
for the length.)<br>
<br>
1.  The Aircraft<br>&nbsp; .<br>
  <br>
2.  Us<br>
  <br>
O<br>
</blockquote><BR>

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