X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 13:11:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.66] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3084651 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:23:07 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.66; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=e0cX+B35DLiTZwG306rYd/lPdCz73eAco4xdOzz2vtVj4XUf/vPBfMb0wA01Yi2J; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [74.93.196.177] (helo=DougsLaptop) by elasmtp-spurfowl.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KVh5U-0000Az-Al for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:22:32 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <442E7701FDB64047ADFEEF4DE61A7053@DougsLaptop> From: "Douglas Brunner" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: some thoughts on accidents X-Original-Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 02:22:21 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac08868399773331e30326fc21d345ba148ac0182d2ef466aae350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 74.93.196.177 Russell, I think you are right, getting proper training is very important. Intrinsically, I think the Legacy is a pretty safe plane, but things happen fast because of the speed so you need to be well prepared. Before I started flying my plane extensively, I took a cross country trip with Josh Brungardt from Redmond to the east coast. We took 3 days and did 3 approaches every day. Not only did this help me learn my plane, but it helped me learn my instruments (Chelton). I recommend you flying with someone like Josh, who knows the plane and the instruments in it to make you more comfortable and a better pilot in your plane. Getting training in your plane is worth even more than training in 99L D. Brunner > Posted for "Russell" : > > Bill, I wholeheartedly agree that proper training and vigilance by pilots > in these > aircraft's are very important. Even the best of pilots end up having > accidents. All we can do is manage the risk, by taking all proper steps > that > ensures competency for the pilot through training. Along with ensuring > that > the equipment they are flying is safe and is well maintained. I am a low > time > pilot and will be transitioning from a Diamond DA 40 to a Lancair legacy. > I > am going from one of the safest aircraft's in the industry to an aircraft > with > a questionable reputation. It is frustrating to get the proper training in > this aircraft as the only one aircraft was available 99L. Recently I > completed the required 10 hours of > training in 99L. As I stated before the pilot needs to be flying a safe > machine that is well-maintained. To my surprise 99L crashed three weeks > after > I flew the aircraft because of mechanical failure. Thank God no one was > injured! Once, I completed the required time for the insurance company, > I > did not want to get back into 99L. I felt the mechanical condition of the > aircraft was questionable and the airframe structural integrity was > weekend > because of all the cycles it has been through. > In closing, I know, I need more dual training in this aircraft. So, my > plans are to have a professional pilot to the first flight and fly the > hours off on > my aircraft. Then I will continue taking dual instruction with an > experienced > instructor in my legacy. Proper training in this aircraft is the most > important thing one can do to be a safe pilot in these machines. One also > should know his limits and respect the equipment they are playing with. I > look forward to flying the legacy and having fun with the aircraft, once I > am > competent with this aircraft. Russell > N2AA