X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 11:29:42 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [65.175.65.251] (HELO mta6.webminders.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTPS id 3081277 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:24:08 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.175.65.251; envelope-from=jskiba@icosa.net Received: from c-98-206-49-81.hsd1.il.comcast.net ([98.206.49.81] helo=DellXPS410) by mta6.webminders.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.67 (FreeBSD)) (envelope-from ) id 1KUxF8-000NQt-Vm for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 18 Aug 2008 01:25:27 -0400 From: "Jeffrey W. Skiba" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Auto Fuel -- Again X-Original-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 00:23:11 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <004501c900f2$832c1640$898442c0$@net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0046_01C900C8.9A560E40" X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AckAhDROF5dmPm0rQhScLEjMEXyzaQAazc4w Content-Language: en-us X-Headers-Begin: 1KUxF8-000NQt-Vm X-Authenticated-As: jskiba@icosa.net X-Headers-End: 1KUxF8-000NQt-Vm This is a multipart message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C900C8.9A560E40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Just trying to clarify something here: IF you: Constructed your wings via: Lower wing - ribs - cells bonded together then Sealed with Jeffco Fuel tank sealer. Top skin wing skin painted with Jeffco fuel tank sealer excluding bond area. Top skin bonded to lower spars - ribs -cells via Hysol ... Will the above construction suffer issues with 10% ethanol Fuel ? How about auto fuel NO ethanol (if you could find it?) I guess I do not understand the comment below about Lower wing skins. Did Jeffco - lancair ever use different types of Jeffco Fuel sealer ? or was there only one fuel sealer ? (looking for info from say 2000 on ..) or have all versions been fine for 10% ethanol ? Thanks everybody Jeff. If your lower wing skins were attached with Hysol It will not work !! Jeffco has another epoxy you can use if they havent been closed yet. I have those numbers if you would like them... A sad voice of experience....... Lloyd n214mm ----- Original Message ----- From: rwolf99@aol.com To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2008 2:54 PM Subject: Auto Fuel -- Again Lycoming's recent announcement that they will be certifying the standard compression O-360 and IO-360 for auto fuel has me wondering about the other components in my fuel system, especially since most auto gas these days contains alcohol. These are the components that I'd like to know are compatible with auto gas. If you can shed any light on this, I'd like to know. I am not intending to revive the Avgas-vs-autogas debate. I am merely trying to make sure that I am not making my airplane incapable of using auto gas. Jeffco fuel tank sealer Facet fuel pump Tygon fuel lines Aeroquip 601/AE701 fuel line Rubber O-rings in gas caps purchased from Lancair Dukes fuel pump Andair gascolator O-rings used on fuel pump fittings I think that's the complete list, other than engine components which would be addressed by Lycoming. - Rob Wolf _____ ------=_NextPart_000_0046_01C900C8.9A560E40 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Just trying to clarify something = here:

IF you:

Constructed your wings via:

Lower wing – ribs – cells bonded together = then Sealed with Jeffco Fuel tank sealer.

Top skin wing skin painted with Jeffco fuel tank sealer = excluding bond area.

Top skin bonded to lower spars – ribs –cells = via Hysol …..

 

Will the above construction suffer issues with 10% = ethanol Fuel ? How about auto fuel NO ethanol (if you could find = it?)

 

I guess I do not understand the comment below about Lower = wing skins…

 

Did Jeffco – lancair ever use different types of = Jeffco Fuel sealer ? or was there only one fuel sealer ? (looking for info from = say 2000 on ……) or have all versions been fine for 10% ethanol = ?

 

Thanks everybody

 

Jeff.

 

 <= /o:p>

 

If your lower wing skins were attached with Hysol It will not work !!  = Jeffco has another epoxy you can use if they havent been closed yet. I have = those numbers if you would like them... A sad voice of = experience.......

 

Lloyd<= o:p>

n214mm=

----- Original Message -----

Sent:<= /b> Wednesday, = August 13, 2008 2:54 PM

Subject: Auto Fuel = -- Again

 

Lycoming's recent announcement that they will be = certifying the standard compression O-360 and IO-360 for auto fuel has me wondering = about the other components in my fuel system, especially since most auto gas = these days contains alcohol.  These are the components that I'd like to = know are compatible with auto gas.  If you can shed any light on this, I'd = like to know.

I am not intending to revive the Avgas-vs-autogas debate.  I am = merely trying to make sure that I am not making my airplane incapable of using = auto gas.

Jeffco fuel tank sealer
Facet fuel pump
Tygon fuel lines
Aeroquip 601/AE701 fuel line
Rubber O-rings in gas caps purchased from Lancair
Dukes fuel pump
Andair gascolator
O-rings used on fuel pump fittings

I think that's the complete list, other than engine components which = would be addressed by Lycoming.

- Rob Wolf

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