X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 17 Aug 2008 12:12:23 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.64] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.6) with ESMTP id 3078724 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:34:40 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.64; envelope-from=douglasbrunner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=iNM87SkRL9K6aDrUTitm31SRc+s+DGvNFyEPwqwj4FST6GkGZpZFp1wIwrrsF1Kq; h=Received:Message-ID:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type:X-Priority:X-MSMail-Priority:X-Mailer:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [74.93.196.177] (helo=DougsLaptop) by elasmtp-curtail.atl.sa.earthlink.net with esmtpa (Exim 4.67) (envelope-from ) id 1KU7ru-0004WX-Qs for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:34:03 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <0C356115D2774393B1051D6E81E2AD98@DougsLaptop> From: "Douglas Brunner" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] leaking wing on IVP X-Original-Date: Fri, 15 Aug 2008 18:33:55 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FF05.797B4420" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6001.18000 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6001.18049 X-ELNK-Trace: ad85a799c4f5de37c2eb1477c196d22294f5150ab1c16ac08868399773331e302ce78140820c6f08a612078954bf0800350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 74.93.196.177 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FF05.797B4420 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Could the blue color be due to Hysol rather than fuel? ----- Original Message -----=20 From: bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 4:25 PM Subject: [LML] leaking wing on IVP Dear subscribers, =20 I need some help/advise. I purchased a used IVP with 250 hrs. It did = not look very nicely and I knew that it needed some work. I had a pre = purchase inspection/anual done at Lancair and they confirmed that = everything was in a working condition and that the airplane was safe to = fly. Based on this I made my purchase decision. =20 I took the airplane apart and I am rebuilding it right now (I did not = have the money for a new kit). After painting the wings we got a paint = bubble during the buffing in the sun. I dug into bubble and found some = of that brown rubber under the primer (the sealer that is used to seal = the inside of fuel tanks - unfortunately I decided to just grind of the = original paint and leave the primer on) I decided to grind of all the = paint and primer around my leading edge and found that brown rubber = stuff on several spots along the leading edge. After removing the rubber = I found wet spots in the carbon fiber. After looking at the wing closer = I found blue stains on the very outside of the leading edge (visible by = looking into the wing after removing the winglets). This probably should = have been found by Lancair during the annual/pre purchase inspection. =20 I think my whole leading edge is soaked with fuel since I see stains = where no fuel tank is. I would also consider this as a safety concern. = My friends from the FBO here think the design of a wing without any = inspection panels is hazardous anyway. So I won't find much help there. = One professional Lancair builder recommended to paint the outside of the = wing with sealer paint - I don't feel very comfortable with his advice. =20 Can anyone give me advise on how to fix this right. I would also feel = more comfortable if I would have professional help on this - any advise = on this? Do you think I would have any success asking Lancair for help = on this since I purchased the plane based on their evaluation. =20 =20 Ralf Bronnenmeier Bluffton, OH 45817 Phone: (419) 369 12 33 E-mail: bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ----- -- For archives and unsub = http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0066_01C8FF05.797B4420 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Could the blue color be due to Hysol = rather than=20 fuel?
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From:=20 bronnenmeier@GROBSYSTEMS.COM= =20
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 = 4:25=20 PM
Subject: [LML] leaking wing on = IVP

Dear=20 subscribers,

 

I need some help/advise. = I=20 purchased a used IVP with 250 hrs. It did not look very nicely and I = knew that=20 it needed some work. I had a pre purchase inspection/anual done at = Lancair and=20 they confirmed that everything was in a working condition and that the = airplane was safe to fly. Based on this I made my purchase=20 decision.

 

I took the airplane = apart and I am=20 rebuilding it right now (I did not have the money for a new kit). = After=20 painting the wings we got a paint bubble during the buffing in the = sun. I dug=20 into bubble and found some of that brown rubber under the primer (the = sealer=20 that is used to seal the inside of fuel tanks - unfortunately I = decided to=20 just grind of the original paint and leave the primer on) I decided to = grind=20 of all the paint and primer around my leading edge and found that = brown rubber=20 stuff on several spots along the leading edge. After removing the = rubber I=20 found wet spots in the carbon fiber. After looking at the wing closer = I found=20 blue stains on the very outside of the leading edge (visible by = looking into=20 the wing after removing the winglets). This probably should have been = found by=20 Lancair during the annual/pre purchase=20 inspection.

 

I think my whole leading = edge is=20 soaked with fuel since I see stains where no fuel tank is. I would = also=20 consider this as a safety concern. My friends from the FBO here think = the=20 design of a wing without any inspection panels is hazardous anyway. So = I won=92t=20 find much help there. One professional Lancair builder recommended to = paint=20 the outside of the wing with sealer paint =96 I don=92t feel very = comfortable with=20 his advice.

 

Can anyone give me = advise on how=20 to fix this right. I would also feel more comfortable if I would have=20 professional help on this =96 any advise on this? Do you think I would = have any=20 success asking Lancair for help on this since I purchased the plane = based on=20 their evaluation.

 

 

Ralf=20 Bronnenmeier

Bluffton, OH=20 45817

Phone: (419) 369 12=20 33

E-mail:=20 bronnenmeier@grobsystems.com

 

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