Return-Path: Received: from mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net ([204.127.131.50]) by truman.olsusa.com (Post.Office MTA v3.5.1 release 219 ID# 0-64832U3500L350S0V35) with ESMTP id com for ; Mon, 6 Mar 2000 20:39:10 -0500 Received: from ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com ([12.73.160.184]) by mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net (InterMail vM.4.01.02.31a 201-229-119-114) with SMTP id <20000307014444.HVL17170.mtiwmhc25.worldnet.att.net@ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com> for ; Tue, 7 Mar 2000 01:44:44 +0000 Message-ID: <002201bf87d6$097cfb00$b8a0490c@ckrouse_ra.spk.hp.com> Reply-To: "Curtis Krouse" From: "Curtis Krouse" To: Subject: Re: Gas filler neck grounding Date: Mon, 6 Mar 2000 17:39:51 -0800 X-Mailing-List: lancair.list@olsusa.com Mime-Version: 1.0 <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> << Lancair Builders' Mail List >> <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<--->>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >> Ed, Forgive me for being so opinionated here......but you are wrong!!! (how's that for a strong opinion?) ;-) If there is any chance whatsoever of the filler cap building up a charge, then there is a potential disaster waiting to happen. It IS important to electrically connect the gas filler to other metal parts of the aircraft for the purpose of allowing a path for the charge to be discharged. BUT, the most important point of the whole discharge path is that the plane and it's related path to the filler cap be equalized to the fuel source. This is of course done by the "ground" connection to the truck or the pump. EVEN without static charge build up on the aircraft skin or any part of the aircraft....IT IS IMPERATIVE as a safety precaution that the fuel source and the fuel dispensing point be connected to dissipate any charge potential between the two. There may not have been any instances of problems, but that doesn't preclude the problem from existing. We have plenty of examples to validate this theory. (wormscrews and all) If connecting the filler cap to other metal parts of the aircraft to provide a discharge path isn't done, then the fuel source potential difference between the source and the filler point STILL needs to be equalized before fueling commences. Even if it's connecting the discharge wire directly to the filler cap itself to bleed of the potential before fueling. Sorry if this seems strong.....guess it may come from the fact that I've been in the quality part of engineering most of my life. ;-) Curtis Krouse N753K >There's something wrong with the thinking recently on grounding the airplane to >prevent sparks during fueling. The E-glass lancairs don't <,SNIP> e>is the filler neck as a result of any charge it alone might have built up. This >filler neck is electrically insulated from everything else including the fuel >since the tank is probably not full when the line boy pulls up. The filler ne>the nose gear or any other metal piece. So how much charge can the fuel filler >neck accumulat >contribute to building a charge. I missed a few posts, so If this is ground >already covered, my aplogies. > >Ed de Chazal >Rochester, Michigan >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LML website: http://www.olsusa.com/Users/Mkaye/maillist.html Builders' Bookstore: http://www.buildersbooks.com/lancair Please send your photos and drawings to marvkaye@olsusa.com. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>