X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 15:03:49 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.143.100] (HELO imo-m12.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3014659 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:28:36 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m12.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id q.cb4.379c568d (37566) for ; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:28:33 -0400 (EDT) Received: from webmail-dd21 (webmail-dd21.webmail.aol.com [205.188.104.21]) by cia-mb04.mx.aol.com (v121.5) with ESMTP id MAILCIAMB043-92be48721a00302; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:28:32 -0400 References: X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: Re: [LML] Runaway Trim X-Original-Date: Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:28:33 -0400 X-AOL-IP: 76.215.109.85 In-Reply-To: X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: vtailjeff@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CAAE4C7CB7085B_C0_283E_webmail-dd21.sysops.aol.com" X-Mailer: AOL Webmail 37563-STANDARD Received: from 76.215.109.85 by webmail-dd21.sysops.aol.com (205.188.104.21) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:28:33 -0400 X-Original-Message-Id: <8CAAE4C7CB2439D-C0-13F1@webmail-dd21.sysops.aol.com> X-Spam-Flag:NO ----------MB_8CAAE4C7CB7085B_C0_283E_webmail-dd21.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" I would call this a case of runaway pilot, not runaway trim!!!! LOL ;) Jeff I had one of the elevator trim relays fail which allowed the trim to move in one direction when called for but would not move in the other direction.? You can guess the eventual situation I found myself in after checking numerous times to see if the trim was working properly -----Original Message----- From: Dan Reagan To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 7:39 am Subject: [LML] Runaway Trim I had one of the elevator trim relays fail which allowed the trim to move in one direction when called for but would not move in the other direction.? You can guess the eventual situation I found myself in after checking numerous times to see if the trim was working properly.? I finally got to full elevator trim one way with no hopes of getting it back to neutral.? It happened fairly close to the airport and I landed with a tired arm.? Even though it takes a considerable force the flight is quite manageable with 2 hands.? Once you are on final, go back to one hand and your brain just has your hand do what it takes to land properly. ? Now that I have experienced it, I believe I would recognize what was happening and leave the minor out of trim situation alone and just live with it until I got on the ground. ? Without recognizing what is happening this situation can be just as bad as runaway trim. ? Dan Reagan IVP Cincinnati ----------MB_8CAAE4C7CB7085B_C0_283E_webmail-dd21.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" I would call this a case of runaway pilot, not runaway trim!!!! LOL ;)

Jeff
I had one of the elevator trim relays fail which allowed the trim to move in one direction when called for but would not move in the other direction.  You can guess the eventual situation I found myself in after checking numerous times to see if the trim was working properly



-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Reagan <dreagan@fuse.net>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 7:39 am
Subject: [LML] Runaway Trim

I had one of the elevator trim relays fail which allowed the trim to move in one direction when called for but would not move in the other direction.  You can guess the eventual situation I found myself in after checking numerous times to see if the trim was working properly.  I finally got to full elevator trim one way with no hopes of getting it back to neutral.  It happened fairly close to the airport and I landed with a tired arm.  Even though it takes a considerable force the flight is quite manageable with 2 hands.  Once you are on final, go back to one hand and your brain just has your hand do what it takes to land properly.
 
Now that I have experienced it, I believe I would recognize what was happening and leave the minor out of trim situation alone and just live with it until I got on the ground.
 
Without recognizing what is happening this situation can be just as bad as runaway trim.
 
Dan Reagan
IVP Cincinnati
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