X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 06 Jul 2008 08:25:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d21.mx.aol.com ([205.188.144.207] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.5) with ESMTP id 3013104 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 05 Jul 2008 19:29:46 -0400 Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-d21.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.4.) id q.ce6.2d6c927e (65098) for ; Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:29:40 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Sat, 5 Jul 2008 19:29:39 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: WAAS antennas X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1215300579" X-Mailer: Unknown sub 34 X-Spam-Flag:NO -------------------------------1215300579 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit My Garmin 430W antenna is under the glare shield with a 12" (inch) cable. Works great. In a message dated 7/5/2008 5:20:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time, mmcmanus@grandecom.net writes: I'm certainly not avionics expert, but unless something has recently changed at Garmin, your radio shop is, ugh, pulling your leg. My 430W does not have an external antennae, and it was installed by a well known shop in north Texas. Also, I remember reading the requirements from Garmin, ie, a specific antennae coax, certain location on the panel, etc, but nothing about external antennaes. That being said, I expect that you will get better reception with external antennaes. On the subject of GNS430s, there is a new software release. The shop doing my x-ponder cert installed version 3.1. No charge to me, Garmin pays the shop 1 hour labor for every upgrade they do. Matt McManus LNC2 360 Quoting Berni : > I just had an existing 430 converted to WAAS and added another new 430W to > my stack. According to the radio shop the antennas MUST be installed > externally and in a certain configuration (not next to one another). > According to the shop Garmin mandates that their authorized shops install > them this way or not at all. > > > > Berni > > > > _____ > > From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn > Case at earthlink > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:42 AM > To: lml@lancaironline.net > Subject: [LML] WAAS antennas > > > > Has anyone else noticed any issues with their WAAS GPS installation? > > > > I just convereted a 530 and 430 to 530W and 430W. My GPS antennas are on > a tray just under the glass section in front of the vertical stab on my IVP. > Since I got Waas I get "No GPS navigation - user other nav" message. It > happens on the ground, it happens whether near buildings or not, it happens > to both navs but at different times. It lasts from 30-45 seconds > typically. > > > > One theory that has been put forth is that the WAAS units look further down > the horizon (or need to to get a big enough constellation) and that I may > have some blockage at those low angles. So far I haven't seen this happen > in the air. > > > > I also converted my cessna 530 to 530W. I haven't noticed any issues. > The antenna is OUTDOORS in that installation. > > > > Colyn > > > > -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for fuel-efficient used cars. (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007) -------------------------------1215300579 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My Garmin 430W antenna is under the glare shield with a 12" (inch) cabl= e.=20 Works great.
 
In a message dated 7/5/2008 5:20:03 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 mmcmanus@grandecom.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>I'm=20 certainly not avionics expert, but unless something has recently changed=20 at
Garmin, your radio shop is, ugh, pulling your leg.  My 430W doe= s=20 not have an
external antennae, and it was installed by a well known sho= p in=20 north Texas.
Also, I remember reading the requirements from Garmin, ie,= a=20 specific antennae
coax, certain location on the panel, etc, but nothing= =20 about external antennaes.

That being said, I expect that you will g= et=20 better reception with external
antennaes.

On the subject of GNS4= 30s,=20 there is a new software release. The shop doing my
x-ponder cert instal= led=20 version 3.1.  No charge to me, Garmin pays the shop 1
hour labor f= or=20 every upgrade they do.
Matt McManus
LNC2 360

Quoting Berni=20 <bbreen@cableone.net>:

> I just had an existing 430 conver= ted=20 to WAAS and added another new 430W to
> my stack.  According to= the=20 radio shop the antennas MUST be installed
> externally and in a cert= ain=20 configuration (not next to one another).
> According to the shop Gar= min=20 mandates that their authorized shops install
> them this way or not=20= at=20 all.
>
>
>
> =20 Berni
>
>
>
>   _____
>
> Fr= om:=20 Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Colyn
= >=20 Case at earthlink
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2008 11:42 AM
>=20= To:=20 lml@lancaironline.net
> Subject: [LML] WAAS=20 antennas
>
>
>
> Has anyone else noticed any issue= s=20 with their WAAS GPS installation?
>
>
>
> I just=20 convereted a 530 and 430 to 530W and 430W.    My GPS antennas ar= e=20 on
> a tray just under the glass section in front of the vertical st= ab=20 on my IVP.
> Since I got Waas I get "No GPS navigation - user other=20= nav"=20 message.  It
> happens on the ground, it happens whether near=20 buildings or not, it happens
> to both navs but at different=20 times.   It lasts from 30-45 seconds
>=20 typically.
>
>
>
> One theory that has been put fo= rth=20 is that the WAAS units look further down
> the horizon (or need to t= o=20 get a big enough constellation) and that I may
> have some blockage=20= at=20 those low angles.   So far I haven't seen this happen
> in= the=20 air.
>
>
>
> I also converted my cessna 530 to=20 530W.    I haven't noticed any issues.
> The antenna is=20 OUTDOORS in that installation.
>
>
>
>=20 Colyn
>
>
>
>





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