X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:27:03 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.17] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.3) with ESMTP id 2923186 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 15 May 2008 10:02:00 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=76.96.30.17; envelope-from=es39wg@comcast.net Received: from OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net ([76.96.30.12]) by QMTA10.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id RpZU1Z0070FhH24AA03e00; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:13 +0000 Received: from amailcenter20.comcast.net ([204.127.225.120]) by OMTA08.emeryville.ca.mail.comcast.net with comcast id Rq1B1Z0032cV5dG8U00000; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:11 +0000 X-Authority-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=Qy0m5ZGpiot913Ot4DE4Vw==:17 a=oFyjhS9MceZWTO8hrFEA:9 a=p5T4VlYH6cI1f-jCEUYkoAkWp8IA:4 a=_I8u8z9Hh0wA:10 Received: from [98.210.57.31] by amailcenter20.comcast.net; Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:10 +0000 From: es39wg@comcast.net X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: You asked X-Original-Date: Thu, 15 May 2008 14:01:10 +0000 X-Original-Message-Id: <051520081401.18103.482C4226000DB393000046B722155517240999C7CC9C0A@comcast.net> X-Mailer: AT&T Message Center Version 1 (Oct 30 2007) X-Authenticated-Sender: ZXMzOXdnQGNvbWNhc3QubmV0 >Curious. How do you have a gear up landing with no prop strike? >Chuck I happen to own both a FG and an RG Cardinal. Also a Turbo 182 RG in addition to the LNCE we are building. Cardinals have been known to have the problem of getting the nose gear down and locked but not the mains. If the mains are in trail as they will if a cylinder is bypassing or if the gear in the gearbox that keeps the mains in sync fails, or as in one case, the bolt on the gear leg failed with one gear down and one in trail then you land on the nose wheel and the tail skid. (That one however had a stabilator strike and wingtip fairing damage). Almost no damage to the airframe so no report to the FAA is necessary. Some people choose to land with all up if they can get it back up. Much like a water landing. I have pictures of one landing gear up on purpose with the prop stopped and all he had to do was replace the transponder antenna. He landed on his home grass strip. I have a movie from a news broadcast where one landed on just the nose wheel and the tail skid.. The only maintenance required was to replace the tail skid. The one I bought was the other way. It had a nose gear that didn't lock down (which is more typical on 177RGs) so did get a prop strike but it happened in Canada. The A&P replaced the prop and RH exhaust riser and ferried it to Wisconsin for repairs. No FAA report required. Now, aren't you sorry you asked? Duane LNCE 39wg