X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 28 Mar 2008 16:33:43 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com ([69.147.75.106] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2.1) with SMTP id 2820974 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 13:51:47 -0400 Received: (qmail 89187 invoked by uid 60001); 27 Mar 2008 17:51:43 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:X-Mailer:Date:From:Subject:To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Message-ID; b=UUoHv0Zp7eDmyfBClD3F2P7coiYdGBRLBQLLLKmNQXvVF5IjwiJIpyjpJaoCcHE/OW3QU2ZoWmldkDPUBWP6fi3impES16mTSMp5nX1QgeA7v/aIPWy56JLUMmGopCssJbm0IZFzlq57Pe/e5dGcj0cqGjLXExmT5W8jig5ASqQ=; X-YMail-OSG: 8zfeRRYVM1ncvV27Hc98KoeOcO6Cs3YWeuV3A4p3tJWaPt8NY5ltirfjP8myS6JtFnJgO85_LJmHVMtQtFHo71g2r37vXAXpFPxGHW9aTqF0IbtcAOcKSw-- Received: from [70.118.76.187] by web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:51:43 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/902.40 YahooMailWebService/0.7.185 X-Original-Date: Thu, 27 Mar 2008 10:51:43 -0700 (PDT) From: Charlie Kohler Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Door Seal Question (LIVP) X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1653603066-1206640303=:88690" X-Original-Message-ID: <777127.88690.qm@web62514.mail.re1.yahoo.com> --0-1653603066-1206640303=:88690 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Large gaps as Jeff describes are cured by gluing this "Extra" door seal strip-- cut to length- use a wire wheel to tapered the ends-- and used as a shim under the seal. I found that it is a neat and long lasting fix. Charlie K. See me on the Web at www.Lancair-IV.com ----- Original Message ---- From: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" To: lml@lancaironline.net Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:24:49 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Door Seal Question (LIVP) I do not have the rubber door gasket on my LIVP. Initially, after a great ground test, I had a lot of door seal leaks at altitude that were cauused by a larger gap than tolerable and subsequent outward flex of the inflated seal. Plus the lower edge of the door frame was angled outward more that the seal tolerated, allowing a more vigorous slippage and leak. I have built up the inner door frame, especially around the complex corner curves, and flattened the lower edge so they rubber door seal does not flex outward after a bit of air time and positive cabin pressure. This solved the door seal issue. Jeff LIVP #464 >Tuesday Afternoon >3/25/08 > >Hi Fred, > >Dennis Pratt (s/n 54) has been flying for over 10 years now and has >almost 1300 hours on his airframe and has never installed the strip >you are talking about. He routinely flies in the flight levels. Of >course, the door is pretty evenly spaced all the way around, so the >seal doesn't really have to "stretch out" to seal the gap. > >A lot of things I have done to mine were dictated by his real-life >experiences. I don't plan to put the strip on mine in the beginning >either - I may have to later. > >Ed Smith >Chesapeake, VA >IV-P Building -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html --0-1653603066-1206640303=:88690 Content-Type: text/html; charset=us-ascii

Large gaps as Jeff describes are cured by gluing this "Extra" door seal strip-- cut to length- use a wire wheel to tapered the ends-- and used as a shim under the seal.

I found that it is a neat and long lasting fix.

Charlie K.

See me on the Web at www.Lancair-IV.com

----- Original Message ----
From: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" <liegner@embarqmail.com>
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2008 12:24:49 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Door Seal Question (LIVP)

I do not have the rubber door gasket on my LIVP.

Initially, after a great ground test, I had a lot of door seal leaks
at altitude that were cauused by a larger gap than tolerable and
subsequent outward flex of the inflated seal. Plus the lower edge of
the door frame was angled outward more that the seal tolerated,
allowing a more vigorous slippage and leak. I have built up the
inner door frame, especially around the complex corner curves, and
flattened the lower edge so they rubber door seal does not flex
outward after a bit of air time and positive cabin pressure. This
solved the door seal issue.

Jeff
LIVP #464

>Tuesday Afternoon
>3/25/08
>
>Hi Fred,
>
>Dennis Pratt (s/n 54) has been flying for over 10 years now and has
>almost 1300 hours on his airframe and has never installed the strip
>you are talking about. He routinely flies in the flight levels. Of
>course, the door is pretty evenly spaced all the way around, so the
>seal doesn't really have to "stretch out" to seal the gap.
>
>A lot of things I have done to mine were dictated by his real-life
>experiences. I don't plan to put the strip on mine in the beginning
>either - I may have to later.
>
>Ed Smith
>Chesapeake, VA
>IV-P Building

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