Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #45627
From: Colyn Case on earthlink <colyncase@earthlink.net>
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Subject: Re: [LML] One mag, One electronic ignition
Date: Fri, 04 Jan 2008 19:55:41 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
[LML] One mag, One electronic ignition
Hey Doug,
 
    you went and changed the subject line.....bad news for those of us that sort by subject.  anyway, my $.02
 
- more power:  in theory you can set up a mag engine to get the same power in one config.   In other words, if the main thing you care about is cruise, you could set your spark timing to be just right for your favorite mixture and your favorite rpm.
 
- engine damage.  lacking variable timing, all you have is mixture to protect your engine from harm.  With fixed timing it's clear what to do (e.g. if you take APS).  With some unknown timing curve in an electronic ignition box, I don't know what to do.  I asked Klaus what his timing curve was really and he just blew me off.   Lacking that information, I wasn't willing to have his box in my airplane.
 
- open loop control systems.   As far as I know, all electronic ignition systems that are for sale are open loop.   ....meaning they determine timing based on control inputs but don't actually have any sensors in the cylinder to determine what is happening.   PRISM's approach is radically different in that it measures the angle of peak pressure and tries to keep it in a very narrow range no matter what you do to the engine controls.   As a result, you can run right at peak, ROP, LOP, whatever you want.  ...and this has obvious advantages both in terms of power and engine longevity.   Unfortunately PRISM isn't for sale at this point.
 
- one mag and one electronic.   Seems plausible but you lose timing control if you leave the mag on.    If I were going to do this I would want to run most of the time with the mag off I think.....and that would mean different timing curves.    I don't know if any of the electronic setups deal with that properly or not.
 
- backup power.   GAMI does have a supplenator for sale.  It's a self-exciting replacement for your backup alternator with automatic load shedding.   I'm also intrigued with the e-mag idea.
 
conclusion:  I decided to stick with 2 mags until I see a) a seriously bullet proof backup power solution.   b) a closed loop ignition system or an open loop system that is clearly documented and backed up by test stand analysis.    For what I care about I can get most of what I want by cruising LOP and just using a lot of gas in max power configurations.   A good electronic system would allow cruising AT PEAK without damaging the engine and that would mean some incremental power.  
 
Colyn
 
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