X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Received: from [76.190.200.141] (account marv@lancaironline.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro WEBUSER 5.2c4) with HTTP id 2626171 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:37:03 -0500 From: marv@lancair.net Subject: Re: Reliability Question To: lml X-Mailer: CommuniGate Pro WebUser v5.2c4 Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 14:37:03 -0500 Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <39B0C804-6549-412C-A348-3885B8C13053@adelphia.net> References: <39B0C804-6549-412C-A348-3885B8C13053@adelphia.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1;format="flowed" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Posted for Gary Casey : A couple of opinions: If I were going to use an electronic device for a backup system (that's not quite a true statement: I wouldn't) I would want to see an instrument that is completely independent. It would have to be in a metal box and be battery powered with the battery inside the box. I suppose that means it would have to be normally off and then be turned on only in case of failure of the aircraft electrical system. If there are any wires in common there could be a problem, even if they are not connected at the time of the over-voltage event. Wires running parallel in a harness could induce voltages in each other by capacitive coupling, inductive couple or by arcing. Even if the wires are heavily insulated a single pinhole could initiate an arc at the wrong time. I agree with Brent - it's not the "reliability" of each system that counts, it's the "fault tolerance" and that is where multiple systems can fail from a common event. On the other question about dual electronic ignitions: I was thinking about building mine with a dual electronic ignition and the power source that I finally came up with (before I abandoned the idea in favor of using one mag) was to use a separate battery and alternator for one of the ignitions. One ignition would be powered by the main battery (not through the master contactor, but directly off the battery) and the other would be powered by its dedicated battery and alternator. There would be no interconnect at all, ever. If either battery failed one ignition system would fail, but there could be no possibility of one failure leading to the other side coming down as well. I've heard stories of complex electrical system (in airliners too) where systems were manually interconnected following a failure only to have the bad system pull the good one down with it. Best regards to all for the new year, Gary Casey