X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 29 Dec 2007 10:44:41 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c4) with ESMTP id 2623452 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:38:04 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.139.136; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.cd3.261e21f6 (65098) for ; Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:37:19 -0500 (EST) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Fri, 28 Dec 2007 21:37:19 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Skoppe lancair 4 pt X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1198895839" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 5006 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1198895839 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit NTSB Identification: DCA84AA002 . The docket is stored on NTSB microfiche number 21244. Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carrier operation of AIR ILLINOIS, INC Accident occurred Tuesday, October 11, 1983 in PINCKNEYVILLE, IL Aircraft: HAWKER SIDDELEY HS-748-2A, registration: N748LL Injuries: 10 Fatal. ABOUT 1.5 MIN AFTER DEPARTING SPRINGFIELD, IL, THE FLTCREW REPORTED A SLIGHT ELECTRICAL PROBLEM, BUT THEY CONTINUED ON COURSE. ABOUT 33 MIN LATER & A FEW MIN BEFORE THE ACFT SHOULD HAVE REACHED ITS DESTINATION, THE ACFT CRASHED. IMPACT OCCURRED WHILE THE ACFT WAS DESCENDING IN A RIGHT WING LOW ATTITUDE. BEFORE CRASHING, THE PLANE'S HEADING HAD CHANGED ABOUT 180 DEG. A CVR TRANSCRIPT REVEALED THE L GENERATOR (GEN) HAD FAILED AFTER TAKEOFF & THE 1ST OFFICER HAD MISTAKENLYISOLATED THE R GEN. ATTEMPTS TO RESTORE THE R GEN WERE UNSUCCESSFUL. THE CAPTAIN ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO THE DESTINATION RATHER THAN RETURN TO THE NEARBY DEPT ARPT. THE CLD BASES WERE AT 2000' MSL, BUT ATC COULD NOT PROVIDE AN IFR CLNC BELOW3000 FT. JUST BEFORE CRASHING, THE CREW INDICATED A TOTAL LOSS OF ELECTRICAL POWER. THE L GEN DRIVE SHAFT HAD SHEARED. THE REASON FOR THE R GEN NOT TO RESET WAS NOT DETERMINED. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THAT RECURRENT FLTCREW TRAINING DID NOT PREPARE THE CREW TO UNDERSTAND & COPE WITH THE ELEC PROBLEM & THAT FAA SURVEILLANCE DID NOT DETECT THE TRNG DEFICIENCY. The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s) of this accident as follows:IN-FLIGHT PLANNING/DECISION..IMPROPER..PILOT IN COMMAND SPATIAL DISORIENTATION..PILOT IN COMMAND Contributing Factors ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,GENERATOR..FAILURE,PARTIAL ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,GENERATOR..SWITCHED OFF ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,GENERATOR..FAILURE,TOTAL SELF-INDUCED PRESSURE..PILOT IN COMMAND INADEQUATE RECURRENT TRAINING..COMPANY/OPERATOR MANAGEMENT INADEQUATE SURVEILLANCE OF OPERATION..FAA(ORGANIZATION) _Index for Oct1983_ (http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/AccList.asp?month=10&year=1983) | _Index of months_ (http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/Month.asp) **************************************See AOL's top rated recipes (http://food.aol.com/top-rated-recipes?NCID=aoltop00030000000004) -------------------------------1198895839 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
NTSB Identification: DCA84AA002 .
The docket is stored on= =20 NTSB microfiche number 21244.
Scheduled 14 CFR Part 121: Air Carri= er=20 operation of AIR ILLINOIS, INC
Accident occurred Tuesday, October 11, 19= 83=20 in PINCKNEYVILLE, IL
Aircraft: HAWKER SIDDELEY HS-748-2A, registration:=20 N748LL
Injuries: 10 Fatal.

ABOUT 1.5 MIN AFTER DEPARTING SPRINGFIELD, IL, THE FLTCREW REPORTED A SLI= GHT=20 ELECTRICAL PROBLEM, BUT THEY CONTINUED ON COURSE. ABOUT 33 MIN LATER & A= FEW=20 MIN BEFORE THE ACFT SHOULD HAVE REACHED ITS DESTINATION, THE ACFT CRASHED.=20 IMPACT OCCURRED WHILE THE ACFT WAS DESCENDING IN A RIGHT WING LOW ATTITUDE.=20 BEFORE CRASHING, THE PLANE'S HEADING HAD CHANGED ABOUT 180 DEG. A CVR TRANSC= RIPT=20 REVEALED THE L GENERATOR (GEN) HAD FAILED AFTER TAKEOFF & THE 1ST OFFICE= R=20 HAD MISTAKENLYISOLATED THE R GEN. ATTEMPTS TO RESTORE THE R GEN WERE=20 UNSUCCESSFUL. THE CAPTAIN ELECTED TO CONTINUE TO THE DESTINATION RATHER THAN= =20 RETURN TO THE NEARBY DEPT ARPT. THE CLD BASES WERE AT 2000' MSL, BUT ATC COU= LD=20 NOT PROVIDE AN IFR CLNC BELOW3000 FT. JUST BEFORE CRASHING, THE CREW INDICAT= ED A=20 TOTAL LOSS OF ELECTRICAL POWER. THE L GEN DRIVE SHAFT HAD SHEARED. THE REASO= N=20 FOR THE R GEN NOT TO RESET WAS NOT DETERMINED. THERE WAS EVIDENCE THAT RECUR= RENT=20 FLTCREW TRAINING DID NOT PREPARE THE CREW TO UNDERSTAND & COPE WITH THE=20= ELEC=20 PROBLEM & THAT FAA SURVEILLANCE DID NOT DETECT THE TRNG DEFICIENCY.

The National Transportation Safety Board determines the probable cause(s)= of=20 this accident as follows:

IN-FLIGHT PLANNING/DECISION..IMPROPER..PILOT IN= =20 COMMAND
SPATIAL DISORIENTATION..PILOT IN COMMAND


Contributing Factors=20

ELECTRICAL SYSTEM,GENERATOR..FAILURE,PARTIAL
ELECTRICAL=20 SYSTEM,GENERATOR..SWITCHED OFF
ELECTRICAL=20 SYSTEM,GENERATOR..FAILURE,TOTAL
SELF-INDUCED PRESSURE..PILOT IN=20 COMMAND
INADEQUATE RECURRENT TRAINING..COMPANY/OPERATOR=20 MANAGEMENT
INADEQUATE SURVEILLANCE OF OPERATION..FAA(ORGANIZATION)

I= ndex for=20 Oct1983 | Index of months= =20 =20




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