Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #45503
From: Fred Moreno <fredmoreno@optusnet.com.au>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Glass Panel Back-up
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 09:12:48 -0500
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

 

Fred,

re: the 350 diagram, they did some interesting things.  I wonder if you have more information about:

- what is in the "junction boxes"

- how they wired the contactors

 

Here's a question: where should you source the power for your xfeed contactor coil, left batt coil, right batt coil?

 

e.g. if you source the right batt coil from the right batt itself, you can't charge that battery unless it's already in pretty good shape.

My conclusion was as follows:

- xfeed fed from essential bus.  It will be up if one of the two batt busses is up.

- right batt from right batt (directly) and left batt bus

- left batt from left batt (directly) and right batt bus

 

As for your question, I have a clear and definitive answer: I don’t know.  Except I think (working from memory of the figure) the relays are powered from the essential bus.  Have a close look.

 

As for your conclusions, I entirely agree.  I first noted some years ago when doing the preliminary design that the AeroElectric Connection layout for dual alternator dual bus has an interesting deficiency.  If you flatten both batteries, the power from the ground power supply can only turn its respective buss, and not the other.  I put in a switch and current limiting resistor that allows the B buss on my plane, the one getting ground power, to feed power to the A buss relay to bring the A battery on line.  Powering the relays off the essential buss achieves the result automatically.   I wish I had seen the Columbia schematic much earlier.

 

Fred

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