X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 22 Nov 2007 21:32:14 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-m28.mx.aol.com ([64.12.137.9] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.2c1) with ESMTP id 2500134 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:44:40 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.137.9; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m28.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.3.) id q.cf7.20dee6e6 (32914) for ; Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:43:40 -0500 (EST) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Wed, 21 Nov 2007 20:43:40 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Hitting a Goose at 185 Knots --- WOW !!!! X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1195695820" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1195695820 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Lorn, This is not from hitting a goose; it was a midair between a Baron and a C 185 near Tehachapi, CA on 1/16/2004. The Cessna pilot was killed -- he was the brother in law of a friend of mine. I have seen these photos circulated several times and everyone thinks it is a bird strike. If it were-- where are the bird guts and feathers? A bird can do a lot of damage but a C 185 can do even more. "On January 16, 2004, about 1415 Pacific standard time, a Cessna 180K, N61691, and a Beech 95-B55, N555RD, collided about 6 nautical miles west-southwest of Tehachapi, California. The Cessna was destroyed, and its pilot was fatally injured. The pilot held an airline transport pilot certificate, and he was a partial owner of the airplane, which was operated under the name of ABA Communications, LLC. The Beech was substantially damaged, and its owner-pilot received minor injuries. Visual meteorological conditions prevailed during the personal flights. At the time of the head-on midair collision, neither airplane was on a flight plan. Both flights were performed under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. The Cessna's flight originated at an undetermined time from Lancaster, California. The Beech's flight originated from Tehachapi, the pilot's home base airport, approximately 1412. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) was not providing any services to the pilots at the time of the accident." See LAX04FA095A or _http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=LAX04FA095A&rpt=fa_ (http://ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=LAX04FA095A&rpt=fa) Regards, Jeff Edwards separating fact from fiction **************************************Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001) -------------------------------1195695820 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Lorn,
 
This is not from hitting a goose; it was a midair between a Baron=20= and=20 a C 185 near Tehachapi, CA on 1/16/2004. The Cessna pilot was killed -- he w= as=20 the brother in law of a friend of mine. I have seen these photos circulated=20 several times and everyone thinks it is a bird strike. If it were-- where ar= e=20 the bird guts and feathers? A bird can do a lot of damage but a C 185 can do= =20 even more.
 
"On January 16, 2004, about 1415 Pacific standard time, a Cessna 180K,=20 N61691, and a Beech 95-B55,
N555RD, collided about 6 nautical miles=20 west-southwest of Tehachapi, California. The Cessna was
destroyed, and it= s=20 pilot was fatally injured. The pilot held an airline transport=20 pilot
certificate, and he was a partial owner of the airplane, which was=20 operated under the name of ABA
Communications, LLC. The Beech was=20 substantially damaged, and its owner-pilot received minor
injuries. Visua= l=20 meteorological conditions prevailed during the personal flights. At the time= =20 of
the head-on midair collision, neither airplane was on a flight plan. B= oth=20 flights were performed
under the provisions of 14 CFR Part 91. The Cessna= 's=20 flight originated at an undetermined time
from Lancaster, California. The= =20 Beech's flight originated from Tehachapi, the pilot's home base
airport,=20 approximately 1412. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) was not provid= ing=20 any
services to the pilots at the time of the accident." See LAX04FA095A=20= or=20 http:= //ntsb.gov/ntsb/GenPDF.asp?id=3DLAX04FA095A&rpt=3Dfa
 
Regards,
 
Jeff Edwards
separating fact from fiction




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