X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 17:59:05 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail-out2.fuse.net ([216.68.8.171] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2397225 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:49:39 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.68.8.171; envelope-from=dreagan@fuse.net X-Original-Return-Path: X-CNFS-Analysis: v=1.0 c=1 a=mY74FrNEczAA:15 a=VFFERzew77AQ9s6yR50nUw==:17 a=Su4hnh0x2XczlqC_Pw0A:9 a=vIbMwa-ZHkm7NTbp3O0A:7 a=FRWMFYwR5fWNkcxHeodUP2YmG5QA:4 a=oltf0pfCdT4A:10 a=e6_2oOgAa4qdjoJEkAAA:9 a=YiZ9cQFKFRYbbKA6hiIA:7 a=0O_kgNjiaV9rxrGRmXoPGwyWmcoA:4 a=AfD3MYMu9mQA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received: from [74.215.45.9] ([74.215.45.9:50695] helo=DanReagan) by mail-out2.fuse.net (ecelerity 2.1.1.22 r(17669)) with ESMTP id 63/B0-10569-D470A174 for ; Sat, 20 Oct 2007 09:49:01 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <001501c81327$9cf7d8c0$6001a8c0@myhome.westell.com> From: "Dan Reagan" X-Original-To: "lancair" Subject: Leading Edge Tape X-Original-Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2007 10:43:43 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0012_01C81306.15B3DE20" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2800.1409 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2800.1409 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C81306.15B3DE20 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable David, Here is the answer you are looking for. I put my tape on in September '05. It is 4" wide and I have it only on = the wings at this time. I have had no problems with it and so far there = is no discoloration although it was mentioned at purchase. The plane = has always been hangared and the tape has approximately 225 flight hours = on it. It has been through rain and a little ice. It was suggested = that I use 6" wide but I think the 4" I used works just fine. =20 I looked in Aircraft Spruce for clear leading edge tape. At that time = there were two 3M products listed with a pretty long descriptive = paragraphs. Both paragraphs were worded identically! I called Aircraft = Spruce and asked the difference. They said we don't know, call 3M. I called 3M and talked to Dan Berstrom who knew what the heck he was = talking about. I asked, "What's the difference?" His first comment = was, "What are you putting this tape on"? I told him it was for a = Lancair. He said that is a no brainer. 3M Number 8674 will last 3 = times longer and is easier to apply than the other one. The good one = just hasn't gone through the certification process like the other one. = (I don't remember the number of option #2) In the Aircraft Spruce catalog I have now, I only see one part number = -3M 8672. Again, the tape I got was 3M 8674. Install wet. Mix one quart- 3 cups water- one cup alcohol (not the = drinking kind), and 2 drops if Joy detergent in a spray bottle. Use some kind of guide for the placement of the tape. (I used masking = tape) THIS IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BE A 2 PERSON JOB. I did it with = by myself, but I almost lost it.=20 Spray the wing down with solution. Make sure it stays wet during = installation. The liquid will evaporate quickly. You can't use too = much spray. Peel the backing off the tape and install. Trim as = necessary. As long as there is solution under the tape it can be moved. = Quickly squeegee all water and bubbles from under the tape. Let dry. The temperature needs to be above 60 degrees when installing but not too = hot. To remove- (I haven't done this part yet) Use hot water 140 to 160 = degrees or a wall paper steamer. Apply steam or hot hot towels for 10 = seconds and it will soften the acrylic. These installation instructions don't come with the tape. They were = told verbally to me by 3M. If you want a leading edge tape for a short period of time (like some = people put tape on and fly to Oshkosh and take it back off for the show) = this is not the one. As for the gap at the wing root, the best thing I have found is a cloth = tape one inch wide covered by two strips of vinyl tape. I don't = remember the numbers right now but it comes from some glider supply = house in New York I think. I can look it up if anyone is interested. = The vinyl tape eventually peels off or is eroded away by rain and bugs = but this seems to last longer than other systems I have tried. Dan Reagan IVP 450+ hours and still learning Cincinnati ------=_NextPart_000_0012_01C81306.15B3DE20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
David,
 
Here is the answer you are looking=20 for.
 
I put my tape on in September = '05.  It is 4"=20 wide and I have it only on the wings at this time. I have had no = problems with=20 it and so far there is no discoloration although it was mentioned at=20 purchase.  The plane has always been hangared and the tape has=20 approximately 225 flight hours on it.  It has been through rain and = a=20 little ice.  It was suggested that I use 6" wide but I think the 4" = I used=20 works just fine. 
 
I  looked in Aircraft Spruce for = clear leading=20 edge tape.  At that time there were two 3M products listed with a = pretty=20 long descriptive paragraphs.  Both paragraphs were worded=20 identically!  I called Aircraft Spruce and asked the = difference.  They=20 said we don't know, call 3M.
 
I called 3M and talked to Dan Berstrom = who knew=20 what the heck he was talking about.  I asked, "What's the=20 difference?"  His first comment was, "What are you putting this = tape=20 on"?  I told him it was for a Lancair.  He said that is a no=20 brainer.  3M Number 8674 will last 3 times longer and is easier to = apply=20 than the other one.  The good one  just hasn't gone = through the=20 certification process like the other one. (I don't remember the number = of option=20 #2)
 
In the Aircraft Spruce catalog I have = now, I only=20 see one part number -3M 8672.  Again, the tape I got was 3M=20 8674.
 
Install wet.  Mix one quart- 3 = cups water- one=20 cup alcohol (not the drinking kind), and 2 drops if Joy detergent in a = spray=20 bottle.
 
Use some kind of guide for the = placement of the=20 tape.  (I used masking tape)  THIS IS HIGHLY RECOMMENDED TO BE = A 2=20 PERSON JOB.  I did it with by myself, but I almost lost it. =
 
Spray the wing down with = solution.  Make sure=20 it stays wet during installation.  The liquid will evaporate = quickly. =20 You can't use too much spray.  Peel the backing off the tape and=20 install.  Trim as necessary.  As long as there is solution = under the=20 tape it can be moved.  Quickly squeegee all water and bubbles from = under=20 the tape.  Let dry.
 
The temperature needs to be above 60 = degrees when=20 installing but not too hot.
 
To remove-  (I haven't done this = part=20 yet)  Use hot water 140 to 160 degrees or a wall paper = steamer.  Apply=20 steam or hot hot towels for 10 seconds and it will soften the=20 acrylic.
 
These installation instructions don't = come with the=20 tape.  They were told verbally to me by 3M.
 
If you want a leading edge tape for a = short period=20 of time (like some people put tape on and fly to Oshkosh and take it = back off=20 for the show) this is not the one.
 
As for the gap at the wing root, the = best thing I=20 have found is a cloth tape one inch wide covered by two strips of vinyl=20 tape.  I don't remember the numbers right now but it comes from = some glider=20 supply house in New York I think.  I can look it up if anyone is=20 interested.  The vinyl tape eventually peels off or is eroded away = by rain=20 and bugs but this seems to last longer than other systems I have=20 tried.
 
Dan Reagan
IVP 450+ hours and still = learning
Cincinnati
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