X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2007 08:58:14 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mta16.adelphia.net ([68.168.78.211] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with ESMTP id 2361710 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 01 Oct 2007 05:46:04 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.168.78.211; envelope-from=super_chipmunk@roadrunner.com Received: from Billlaptop ([74.75.176.139]) by mta16.adelphia.net (InterMail vM.6.01.05.04 201-2131-123-105-20051025) with SMTP id <20071001094525.WZKV6229.mta16.adelphia.net@Billlaptop> for ; Mon, 1 Oct 2007 05:45:25 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <97D8291A545F45B7B4A0C524CA45D9AD@Billlaptop> From: "Bill Wade" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [LML] Circuit Breaker Panel X-Original-Date: Mon, 1 Oct 2007 05:44:50 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0042_01C803EE.2EF691B0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Mail 6.0.6000.16480 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.0.6000.16480 This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C803EE.2EF691B0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have used MS25226 buss bars to connect breakers. They're plated copper a= nd predrilled- I don't have a sample to check hole spacing but the Klixon b= reakers I checked had #8 screws. Aircraft Spruce carries them, also Chief A= ircraft. One or both ends can be bent upwards and a brass screw soldered to= the bus for a connecting lug. If you buy them long they can be cut up as n= eeded. I like solder. My preference would be to solder the connector tabs in the = picture to the buses to ensure full contact and to eliminate oxidation betw= een the pieces. Rosin based paste flux makes that easy to do. The solid jumpers seem like a hard way to do things- my guess is the tabs = would have to be soldered in place. They form an inflexible link between co= mponents- ambient and current induced expansion and contraction would put s= ome stress on the connections. Putting a kink into the jumpers as you do wi= th hydraulic lines would help but I'd be inclined to use stranded wire with= crimped connecters, perhaps with a drop of solder on them. I'd also try to= have the bus feeds connected at the center of the bus or near the highest = rated breaker. With untinned copper connections I like to use a drop of DeO= xit from Caig Laboratories. It wicks into the connection to ensure good ele= ctrical contact and to resist future oxidation. -Bill Wade ----- Original Message -----=20 From: marv@lancair.net=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2007 3:41 PM Subject: [LML] Circuit Breaker Panel Posted for : Circuit Breaker Panel Has anyone used the method described on Aeroconnections web site (Photo's= and=20 Figures / Breaker / Breaker Panel Busing) to connect rows of breakers? Can't find any documentation on the photos. Was inquiring to see if anyon= e=20 has used this method and can supply any info. on materials used or hardwa= re=20 used pertaining to the application. I messed up slightly designing my pan= el=20 and realized the circuit breakers were a little tight. This method seemed= like=20 a good fix vs other methods. Thoughts and Ideas welcome thanks=20 jeff -- For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html ------=_NextPart_000_0042_01C803EE.2EF691B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
 I have used MS25226 buss bars to con= nect=20 breakers. They're plated copper and predrilled- I don't have a sample = to=20 check hole spacing but the Klixon breakers I checked had #8 screws.=20 Aircraft Spruce carries them, also Chief Aircraft. One or both ends can be = bent=20 upwards and a brass screw soldered to the bus for a connecting lug. If you = buy=20 them long they can be cut up as needed.
 
 I like solder. My preference wo= uld be to=20 solder the connector tabs in the picture to the buses to ensure full= =20 contact and to eliminate oxidation between the pieces. Rosin based pas= te=20 flux makes that easy to do.
 
 The solid jumpers seem like a hard w= ay to do=20 things- my guess is the tabs would have to be soldered in place. They = form=20 an inflexible link between components- ambient and current induced=20 expansion and contraction would put some stress on the connections. Pu= tting=20 a kink into the jumpers as you do with hydraulic lines would help but = I'd=20 be inclined to use stranded wire with crimped connecters, perhaps with a dr= op of=20 solder on them. I'd also try to have the bus feeds connected at the center = of=20 the bus or near the highest rated breaker. With untinned copper=20 connections I like to use a drop of DeOxit from Caig Laboratories. It = wicks=20 into the connection to ensure good electrical contact and to resist fu= ture=20 oxidation.  -Bill Wade
 
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Subject: [LML] Circuit Breaker=20 Panel

Posted for <jeff@eurocars4less.com>:
Circuit=20 Breaker Panel
Has anyone used the method described on Aeroconnections = web=20 site (Photo's and
Figures / Breaker / Breaker Panel Busing) to connec= t=20 rows of breakers?
Can't find any documentation on the photos. Was inqu= iring=20 to see if anyone
has used this method and can supply any info. on=20 materials used or hardware
used pertaining to the application. I mess= ed up=20 slightly designing my panel
and realized the circuit breakers were a= =20 little tight. This method seemed like
a good fix vs other methods.=20 Thoughts and Ideas welcome
thanks

jeff

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