X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 02 Sep 2007 19:57:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com ([68.142.206.237] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.12) with SMTP id 2305842 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 01 Sep 2007 23:04:14 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=68.142.206.237; envelope-from=mcmess1919@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 60545 invoked from network); 2 Sep 2007 03:03:37 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=Received:X-YMail-OSG:From:To:References:In-Reply-To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:Thread-Index:Content-Language:x-cr-hashedpuzzle:x-cr-puzzleid; b=5OSGgts6TUBFyi6L38SQqQPm2NMnYCnHQ1G5jVXdo2T5/49Po6ixSJOIt8H3P2/BOQh6PmNtIuPCGdhmdbgWPc9aQSDgzbHVsCZ15ILl4SD2FDZDYoRiDqUsvO55ft4cwiA0B+trYsCWXLuMKp2EtXIUER8qc0j/U423XPPVDnw= ; Received: from unknown (HELO Laptop) (mcmess1919@72.177.74.17 with login) by smtp104.plus.mail.mud.yahoo.com with SMTP; 2 Sep 2007 03:03:37 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5Tb__RwVM1l6FC8EE_t0HIf9sEQInYoyCmBQ4Xq9R4t5wTlM From: "Steve Colwell" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" References: In-Reply-To: Subject: Density Altitude Crash X-Original-Date: Sat, 1 Sep 2007 22:03:37 -0500 X-Original-Message-ID: <001401c7ed0d$dd761690$986243b0$@com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: Acfs7wbfkH2JDSQvRZ+y+YbvbrcXZgAG3Uiw Content-Language: en-us x-cr-hashedpuzzle: 2mU= ARMO AZ1y CaQ3 C3Dh Frs/ F+4H GYdR GZj2 HRY0 HVuv HYuW HswC IVaO J3Xa K3DB;1;bABtAGwAQABsAGEAbgBjAGEAaQByAG8AbgBsAGkAbgBlAC4AbgBlAHQA;Sosha1_v1;7;{2B69C588-8FA0-4124-94D4-74B4E0C46151};bQBjAG0AZQBzAHMAMQA5ADEAOQBAAHkAYQBoAG8AbwAuAGMAbwBtAA==;Sun, 02 Sep 2007 03:03:30 GMT;RABlAG4AcwBpAHQAeQAgAEEAbAB0AGkAdAB1AGQAZQAgAEMAcgBhAHMAaAA= x-cr-puzzleid: {2B69C588-8FA0-4124-94D4-74B4E0C46151} >Why did he take off down wind? Is that a one way strip? Cameron Park is down in a hole. You can take off the other way but terrain is higher and an immediate turn is required to avoid a steep hill. >Also, might he have lowered the nose a bit, once airborne, to gain a couple more knots before trying to climb? My guess is he lifted off in ground effect, with the stall horn blareing he did not have enough runway to abort, then added just a little elevator to clear the hill at the end of the runway. I understand the pilot was a professional with many hours. Steve