Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #43750
From: Jim Scales <joscales98@hotmail.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: ES Strut issues - Columbia Legs
Date: Sat, 25 Aug 2007 17:35:37 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Thanks for the advice on the camera.  I will consider that and, whichever way I go, will share my findings with the community.
 
Jim
----- Original Message -----
From: rtitsworth
Sent: Saturday, August 25, 2007 9:07 AM
Subject: [LML] Re: ES Strut issues - Columbia Legs

Jim, etal

 

I’m presuming that you suspect that the nose gear shimmy might (perhaps) be induced by the behavior of the main gear.  I believe others have hypothesized this before also.

 

I do know that the gear legs on my high-wing C172 can/do rapidly oscillate for-aft much more than one would normally imagine during landing/braking (sometimes as much as 4-6 inches, or more) and the gear legs are solidly mounted to the fuselage.

 

A video of an ES main gear (during breaking/shimmy) would be very interesting.  Perhaps you might be able to just try a small/portable usb PC/Laptop camera taped to the ES step (and wired to a laptop in the cabin).  They are pretty small and relatively in-expensive.  Duct tape and a long USB cable would probably do the trick.  Recording audio from inside the cabin and calling-out deceleration speeds/events would help correlate the two.  You could also re-aim it and video the front pant from the step on subsequent landings.

 

Has anyone with relatively high ES hours/landings also closely checked the main gear receptacles for signs of fatigue/fracture in the for/aft direction?  It seems/appears the design is very stiff/strong in that orientation and thus I don’t suspect much would happen to it – except to transfer the energy to the spar bulkheads and fuselage.  Ideally most of it would get damped by the composite fuselage – but perhaps not.  If the energy/excitation were resonant with the nose pant’s Fn it wouldn’t take much to get the nose pant/wheel going.  Then, if the front strut’s damping where degraded in any way (heat, seals, etc), hold on.

 

FYI, I believe the Columbia main gear is quite different than an ES.  The Columbia gear mounts to the fuselage “behind” the wing, since the Columbia wing is one continuous piece (tip-2-tip) and is mated to the fuselage from the bottom (versus two ES wing halves mated into the sides).  I have never seen a Columbia gear without the leg fairings.  I also don’t know if the Columbia brakes are the same/similar (I assume so)?

 

Also note that the factory ES (407L) has an earlier/preliminary gear leg design.  It’s gear sits much lower than all of ours.  Tim, would know if it’s legs are made from a metal bar/plate (versus tapered tubes) and/or all composite (like my Corvette suspension springs).

 

Rick

 

 
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