X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 24 Aug 2007 16:52:50 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com ([65.54.246.160] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2281450 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 21:26:17 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=65.54.246.160; envelope-from=joscales98@hotmail.com Received: from hotmail.com ([65.55.135.17]) by bay0-omc2-s24.bay0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.2668); Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:25:40 -0700 Received: from mail pickup service by hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC; Thu, 23 Aug 2007 18:25:40 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: Received: from 75.81.226.134 by BAY130-DAV7.phx.gbl with DAV; Fri, 24 Aug 2007 01:25:38 +0000 X-Originating-IP: [75.81.226.134] X-Originating-Email: [joscales98@hotmail.com] X-Sender: joscales98@hotmail.com From: "Jim Scales" X-Original-To: "Lancair List" Subject: ES Strut issues X-Original-Date: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:25:42 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_003C_01C7E5C3.C740E1D0" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: MSN 9 X-MimeOLE: Produced By MSN MimeOLE V9.50.0039.1900 Seal-Send-Time: Thu, 23 Aug 2007 20:25:42 -0500 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Aug 2007 01:25:40.0365 (UTC) FILETIME=[AEA8B3D0:01C7E5ED] X-Original-Return-Path: joscales98@hotmail.com This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C7E5C3.C740E1D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I have just finished the annual on my Super ES. I discovered a cracked engine mount within ten minutes of starting the = inspection. I have experienced the "ES Shake" since the plane was new. It now has = about 860 hours on it. I have done various things to the plane to = address the problem through the years I have been flying it. Some = things seem to improve it, some don't make a difference. The plane has = never been without the shake completely. The shake occurs at the same = speed (30-32 knots) on rollout after landing and while on the brakes. = Releasing brake pressure makes the shake go away. The following is a list of what I did the the plane during this annual, = and had done previously, to help or eliminate the shake: -Strut rebuild and update by Lancair (second time) -Engine mount repair, update, reinforcement, inspection by Lancair -New Cleveland brake discs -Balance all tires and wheels -Balance nose wheel pant -Precisely align main gear both in toe and camber. -Shim main gear legs to reduce "play" between leg and mount. -Shim spindles to fit tightly to the gear legs Test flight showed no noticeable improvement in the shake. =20 My next step is to mount a camcorder on the plane so that I can see the = landing gear and attempt to determine if the origin of the problem is = the nose wheel or the main gear. I am inclined to believe it is the = main gear. I don't remember hearing anyone describe how the shake affects the = controls. The shake in my plane causes the stick to move front to rear = in rapid cycles. The plane feels like the tail is jumping up and down. = It would seem that a nose wheel shimmy would cause the plane to move = side to side. I don't think that is happening with mine. I will post whatever I learn from the camcorder exercise. In a related area, I don't recall hearing of or reading about what = Lancair has done to help with this situation. It is certainly possible = that I just missed that part. It seems that, with a large percentage of the ES fleet exhibiting the = same issues under the same conditions, whatever they may be recommending = is not working. Perhaps they should do some more detective work = (possibly check out some of the planes that show the problems), and help = with a fix. As I said, maybe I missed the part where this had been = done, but I don't recall anyone ever mentioning to me that Lancair had = discovered the source of the problem and determined the things that need = to be done to eliminate it. It would be impossible for me to believe = the Columbia has this same problem. Wonder what is different. I know that I have put in a great amount of time and no small amount of = expense to correct it and it ain't happened. I gather from my = conversations with other builders that I am not alone in those = categories. Just thought I would share............. Jim Scales Angel's Playmate ------=_NextPart_000_003C_01C7E5C3.C740E1D0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I have just finished the annual on my Super ES.
 
I discovered a cracked engine mount within ten minutes of starting = the=20 inspection.
 
I have experienced the "ES Shake" since the plane was new.  It = now has=20 about 860 hours on it.  I have done various things to the plane to = address=20 the problem through the years I have been flying it.  Some things = seem to=20 improve it, some don't make a difference.  The plane has never been = without=20 the shake completely.  The shake occurs at the same speed (30-32 = knots) on=20 rollout after landing and while on the brakes.  Releasing brake = pressure=20 makes the shake go away.
 
The following is a list of what I did the the plane during this = annual, and=20 had done previously, to help or eliminate the shake:
 
-Strut rebuild and update by Lancair (second time)
-Engine mount repair, update, reinforcement, inspection by = Lancair
-New Cleveland brake discs
-Balance all tires and wheels
-Balance nose wheel pant
-Precisely align main gear both in toe and camber.
-Shim main gear legs to reduce "play" between leg and mount.
-Shim spindles to fit tightly to the gear legs
 
Test flight showed no noticeable improvement in the shake.  =
 
My next step is to mount a camcorder on the plane so that I can see = the=20 landing gear and attempt to determine if the origin of the problem is = the nose=20 wheel or the main gear.  I am inclined to believe it is the main=20 gear.
 
I don=92t remember hearing anyone describe how the shake affects = the=20 controls.  The shake in my plane causes the stick to move front to = rear in=20 rapid cycles.  The plane feels like the tail is jumping up and = down. =20 It would seem that a nose wheel shimmy would cause the plane to move = side to=20 side.  I don=92t think that is happening with mine.
 
I will post whatever I learn from the camcorder exercise.
 
In a related area, I don=92t recall hearing of or reading about = what Lancair=20 has done to help with this situation.  It is certainly possible = that I just=20 missed that part.
 
It seems that, with a large percentage of the ES fleet exhibiting = the same=20 issues under the same conditions, whatever they may = be recommending is=20 not working.  Perhaps they should do some more detective work=20 (possibly check out some of the planes that show the problems), and help = with a=20 fix.  As I said, maybe I missed the part where this had been = done, but=20 I don=92t recall anyone ever mentioning to me that Lancair had = discovered the=20 source of the problem and determined the things that need to be = done to=20 eliminate it.  It would be impossible for me to believe the = Columbia has=20 this same problem.  Wonder what is different.
 
I know that I have put in a great amount of time and no small = amount of=20 expense to correct it and it ain't happened.  I gather from my=20 conversations with other builders that I am not alone in those = categories.
 
Just thought I would share.............
 
Jim Scales
Angel's Playmate
 
 
 
 
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