X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 18 Aug 2007 11:39:53 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.136.170] (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2269582 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:23:40 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.136.170; envelope-from=VTAILJEFF@aol.com Received: from VTAILJEFF@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.d50.101c15de (39954) for ; Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:22:54 -0400 (EDT) From: VTAILJEFF@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Fri, 17 Aug 2007 18:22:54 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Straight Shot article in SWA Spirit Magazine X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1187389374" X-Mailer: AOL 9.0 VR sub 165 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1187389374 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/17/2007 4:50:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, colyncase@earthlink.net writes: Do you or anyone else have pointers to the actual documents that verify your point #1? Point #1: Airway congestion is a myth. The skies are not crowded. A few big airports that serve the major airlines are overcrowded with airline traffic. Hub congestion is a fact and is the airline industry's making. Point to point navigation that frees aircraft from using ground based navigation aids and its attendant airways has been around for a long time. GPS has been around for over ten years. I file and fly GPS direct almost every flight I make and I know your crews often ask for "direct to destination" to cut flight times. General aviation got onboard with GPS long before the airlines did. Delays experienced by airlines are their own making. Hub and spoke operations constrict the NAS system into a few major bottlenecks like O'Hare, Atlanta and New York. These airports are generally avoided by general aviation users who prefer smaller closer relievers. You can only fit so many airplanes onto the same piece of concrete. Southwest knows that better than any other airline. New airport construction is sadly lacking in this country. All aviation users need to get onboard together and demand new airport construction-- and not just at a few major hubs. Colyn, I have never, repeat... NEVER been delayed because there is an aircraft on Victor 138 ahead of me going slower. I have experienced delays at Dulles because a thunderstorm was clobbering Hartsfield and the FAA ATC put a ground stop in place between those city pairs. I have had delays at St. Louis Lambert on American Airlines because the boarding gate had another aircraft and we had to wait for 40 minutes on the tarmac but I have NEVER been delayed because Spirit of St. Louis airport GA ramp was full. The skies aren't crowded-- the few major airports are. Its not about airspace, its about concrete. I had a GPS in my Bonanza before Delta had it in their 757's -- ask any airline pilot what equipment they are flying with and when they got it. Regards, Jeff ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -------------------------------1187389374 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 8/17/2007 4:50:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 colyncase@earthlink.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Do you=20 or anyone else have pointers to the actual documents that verify your poin= t=20 #1?
Point #1: Airway congestion is a myth. The skies are not crowded. = A=20 few big airports that serve the major airlines are overcrowded with airline=20 traffic. Hub congestion is a fact and is the airline industry's=20 making.  Point to point navigation that frees aircraft from using groun= d=20 based navigation aids and its attendant airways has been around for a long t= ime.=20 GPS has been around for over ten years. I file and fly GPS direct almost eve= ry=20 flight I make and I know your crews often ask for "direct to destinatio= n"=20 to cut flight times. General aviation got onboard with GPS long before=20= the=20 airlines did. Delays experienced by airlines are their own making. Hub and s= poke=20 operations constrict the NAS system into a few major bottlenecks like O'Hare= ,=20 Atlanta and New York. These airports are generally avoided by general aviati= on=20 users who prefer smaller closer relievers. You can only fit so many airplane= s=20 onto the same piece of concrete. Southwest knows that better than any other=20 airline. New airport construction is sadly lacking in this country. All avia= tion=20 users need to get onboard together and demand new airport construction-- and= not=20 just at a few major hubs.
 
Colyn,
 
I have never, repeat... NEVER been delayed because there is an aircraft= on=20 Victor 138 ahead of me going slower. I have experienced delays at Dulles=20 because a thunderstorm was clobbering Hartsfield and the FAA ATC put a=20 ground stop in place between those city pairs. I have had delays at St. Loui= s=20 Lambert on American Airlines because the boarding gate had another= =20 aircraft and we had to wait for 40 minutes on the tarmac but  I ha= ve=20 NEVER been delayed because Spirit of St. Louis airport GA ramp was full. The= =20 skies aren't crowded-- the few major airports are. Its not about airspace, i= ts=20 about concrete.
 
I had a GPS in my Bonanza before Delta had it in their 757's -- ask any= =20 airline pilot what equipment they are flying with and when they got it.
 
Regards,
 
Jeff



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