X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 16 Aug 2007 21:19:17 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from sccrmhc12.comcast.net ([63.240.77.82] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2265275 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 15 Aug 2007 20:47:49 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=63.240.77.82; envelope-from=j.hafen@comcast.net Received: from hafenj1 (71-36-70-115.slkc.qwest.net[71.36.70.115]) by comcast.net (sccrmhc12) with SMTP id <2007081600471201200d6uese>; Thu, 16 Aug 2007 00:47:13 +0000 From: "John Hafen" X-Original-To: , "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: FW: [LML] Apologies to Newton X-Original-Date: Wed, 15 Aug 2007 18:47:09 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <002301c7df9e$faf73400$0a00a8c0@engagethoughtware.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7DF6C.B05CC400" X-Priority: 3 (Normal) X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook, Build 10.0.6626 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 Importance: Normal This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7DF6C.B05CC400 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Dave, =20 So if you a) walked away from it and b) could use the plane again, then = it was, by definition, a great landing! Been there done that... =20 My technique is to fly it down to a half inch above the runway, and then just let it crash. =20 =20 John Hafen =20 -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of = Dave Saylor Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:47 PM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Apologies to Newton =20 OK, I spent way too much time figureing this out but isn't hitting the ground at 1500fpm like being strapped in the plane while it gets pushed = off a 9.7 foot cliff? I think I've done landings close to that, and reused = the airplane. =20 Dave Saylor AirCrafters LLC 140 Aviation Way Watsonville, CA=20 831-722-9141 831-750-0284 CL www.AirCraftersLLC.com =20 _____ =20 From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of rwolf99@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:25 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Apologies to the farmer's daughter Guys -- Richard Titsworth pointed out to me that the 25 foot-per-second descent = rate with a BRS *is* 1500 feet per minute. Gee, I get the "turkey of the = day" award... Anyway, they claim that 25 fps (1500 fpm) is survivable. They told us = that they want the airplane to land slightly nose down. If we were going to = land tail first, they would have insisted on head-rest-type protection = features. You know, 25 fps didn't sound all that fast to me, but 1500 fpm seems = pretty darn fast to be crunching into the ground. - Rob Wolf _____ =20 AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free = from AOL at AOL.com. ------=_NextPart_000_0024_01C7DF6C.B05CC400 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Dave,

So if you a) walked away from it = and b) could use the plane again, then it was, by definition, a great = landing! Been there done that…..

My technique is to fly it down to a = half inch above the runway, and then just let it crash. =

John Hafen

-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing = List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of Dave Saylor
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 4:47 = PM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Apologies = to Newton

OK, I spent way too much time figureing this out but isn't = hitting the ground at 1500fpm like being strapped in the plane while it gets pushed = off a 9.7 foot cliff? I think I've done landings close to that, and = reused the airplane.

Dave Saylor

AirCrafters LLC

140 Aviation Way

Watsonville, CA

831-722-9141

831-750-0284 CL

www.AirCraftersLLC.com

From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of rwolf99@aol.com
Sent: Wednesday, August 15, 2007 6:25 = AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Apologies = to the farmer's daughter

Guys --

Richard Titsworth pointed out to me that the 25 foot-per-second descent = rate with a BRS *is* 1500 feet per minute. Gee, I get the = "turkey of the day" award...

Anyway, they claim that 25 fps (1500 fpm) is survivable. They told = us that they want the airplane to land slightly nose down. If we were = going to land tail first, they would have insisted on head-rest-type = protection features.

You know, 25 fps didn't sound all that fast to me, but 1500 fpm seems = pretty darn fast to be crunching into the ground.

- Rob Wolf

AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about = what's free from AOL at AOL.com.

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