X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2007 20:10:39 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [64.12.136.170] (HELO imo-m11.mail.aol.com) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with ESMTP id 2244282 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sun, 05 Aug 2007 19:12:34 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.12.136.170; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-m11.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r9.2.) id q.c09.1ed18c00 (39955) for ; Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:11:54 -0400 (EDT) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2007 19:11:54 EDT Subject: Re: [LML] Re: AOA stuff - was SUMMARY OF LANCAIR ACCIDENTS IN NTSB DATABASE X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1186355513" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5365 X-Spam-Flag: YES -------------------------------1186355513 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 8/5/2007 12:52:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time, marv@lancair.net writes: Perhaps one of our more aerodynamically erudite brethren could further illustrate in a manner we could all more easily get our brains around. No way! I use Vbcc or Best Climb Compromise. In my 320 that is 135-140 KIAS yielding 1800 to 900 fpm, depending on the temperature,altitude, load, cooling, comfort and GS needed escape from the dangerous airport environment. Only people flying underpowered and tediously slow aircraft use those other numbers (nibbling on the rash of crash). I do not try to use Vx or Vy since I can clear the 50 ft obstacle and meet the IFR departure requirements with Vbcc. I do not use 800 foot runways, either AC or DC. Arrrrgghh! Grayhawk AOA is Grrreat Hell with the rate I can climb and ignore the sublime Tony (the Tiger) said it best Hah! Is there no rhyme test? ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour -------------------------------1186355513 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
In a message dated 8/5/2007 12:52:06 P.M. Central Daylight Time,=20 marv@lancair.net writes:
<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>Perhaps=20 one of our more aerodynamically erudite brethren could further illustrate=20= in a=20 manner we could all more easily get our brains=20 around. 
No way!  I use Vbcc or Best Climb Compromise.  In my 320 that= is=20 135-140 KIAS yielding 1800 to 900 fpm, depending on the temperature,altitude= ,=20 load, cooling, comfort and GS needed escape from the=20 dangerous airport environment.
 
Only people flying underpowered and tediously slow aircraft use th= ose=20 other numbers (nibbling on the rash of crash).  I do not try to use Vx=20= or=20 Vy since I can clear the 50 ft obstacle and meet the IFR departure requireme= nts=20 with Vbcc.  I do not use 800 foot runways, either AC or DC.
 
Arrrrgghh!
 
Grayhawk
 
AOA is Grrreat
Hell with the rate
I can climb
and ignore the sublime
Tony (the Tiger) said it best
 
Hah! Is there no rhyme test?



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