X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 13:52:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mail.stoel.com ([198.36.178.142] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with SMTP id 2227288 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 02 Aug 2007 12:17:02 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=198.36.178.142; envelope-from=JJHALLE@stoel.com Received: from gateway1.stoel.com ([198.36.178.141]) by mail.stoel.com (SMSSMTP 4.1.9.35) with SMTP id M2007080209161401306 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2007 09:16:14 -0700 Received: from PDX-SMTP.stoel.com (unknown [172.16.103.137]) by gateway1.stoel.com (Firewall Mailer Daemon) with ESMTP id 16F7BAF0A2 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:15:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from PDX-MX6.stoel.com ([172.16.103.64]) by PDX-SMTP.stoel.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:19:07 -0700 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Subject: What causes stall/spin X-Original-Date: Thu, 2 Aug 2007 09:19:07 -0700 X-Original-Message-ID: <17E9FE5945A57A41B4D8C07737DB6072067B9E67@PDX-MX6.stoel.com> In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: What causes stall/spin Thread-Index: AcfU7IHpBWtt+H2lT3enmGIsHdgQWgAMWthQ From: "Halle, John" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-OriginalArrivalTime: 02 Aug 2007 16:19:07.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[DA2A3F20:01C7D520] =20 At the risk of once more running into a long-standing brick wall (well marked on all the Sectional Charts) I feel obligated to point out what seems to me to be obvious. Stall/spin accidents are not caused by the absence of an AOA device in the cockpit. They are caused by pilots exceeding the stall AOA and, in most cases, greatly exacerbated by the pilot's reaction to the stall. In the moments before such an event, there are any number of indicators of impending stall including airspeed (not as accurate or as fast as AOA but close enough to make it absolutely clear that there is a huge risk) mushy controls, buffet or other physical indications, visually apparent aircraft attitude and a host of other factors that, if they are not apparent to the pilot, suggest that the pilot should seriously question his or her ability to fly safely. With rare exceptions, stall accidents are preventable even following the stall by quick and appropriate remedial action by the pilot which NEVER includes either (i) initially fighting a wing drop with aileron or (ii) pulling even further back on the stick (the two most common instinctive reactions.) An immediate reduction in "g" followed by appropriate corrective action can almost always prevent the spin and lead to a recovery within a few hundred feet. Most importantly, prevention is the critical element in any high performance aircraft with unknown and probably poor spin recovery characteristics. Most or all of the Lancair stall/spin accidents have happened either in CBs or in the landing pattern. There is simply no reason and no excuse for flying into a CB or for being in the landing pattern prior to flare at any angle of attack close to critical. Pilots who allow either of these things to happen should not buy an AOA -- they should tear up their licences and get a set of golf clubs. AOAs are great fun but they are necessary only if you are trying to land on an aircraft carrier. If you want one, by all means buy one. But if you think that an AOA is a substitute for competent situational awareness and airmanship, you are more unsafe than if you had never heard of an AOA.