X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2007 05:51:28 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com ([206.190.49.113] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.11) with SMTP id 2225806 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 20:17:10 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.190.49.113; envelope-from=randylsnarr@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 45802 invoked by uid 60001); 2 Aug 2007 00:16:32 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=KakbHjcpB5d7N043A5YUf3W5qOozWOvopLsfgMureU8MAhF8E9j1/yPkuLcHj2sxd8q6fqi5WjuEefvkJBwN56iDEKMBjV5iqQ6ekasH6gGfwv/xlkmpMMApT7avT43nIxf4RgXhLZeEr9hkfDal2/egO1iKYIs4zBqYcGWY6+8=; X-YMail-OSG: RrB1BjAVM1ndQGV_ddvoUQd6f_.usbUFmGltTyV. Received: from [67.50.40.154] by web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 01 Aug 2007 17:16:32 PDT X-Original-Date: Wed, 1 Aug 2007 17:16:32 -0700 (PDT) From: randy snarr Subject: Re: [LML] Emergency Gear Dump Valve Change? X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-742180697-1186013792=:44088" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: <603158.44088.qm@web54303.mail.re2.yahoo.com> --0-742180697-1186013792=:44088 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jim, The straght ball valve was not designed to handle the pressure of the systems in our airplanes. Swagelock valves will handle the pressure. As for the return line, I have heard no talk of this on the 235,320/360 airplanes until now. I was planning to do this due to some issues I have had with my system building pressure in the hot sun. When I went to leave OSH both gear gauges read 1050 lbs. If I had taken off in that condition, the gear would not have come up as the gear up swich would open due to the pressure being over it's limits. Tthis has happend to me before when I was in Vegas. If I had a return line to the resevoir I could open the dump valve and 0 the pressure. I went under the airplane with a 9/16 wrench and cracked one of the high pressure fittings and released the pressure. This is a pain and I intend to add a 3 way valve and return line as soon as practicle. Hope that helps. Randy L. Snarr 235/320 Salt Lake City, Utah Jim Auman wrote: Folks, I am wondering when the Gear Dump Valve was changed and why from the straight ball valve to the Swagelock with a return line to the reservoir. The Legacy hydraulic diagram shows the return line to the Oildyne reservoir. Our older 320 series do not show anything but a Hi/Lo line system. I’m just looking for a reason or what condition created a need for the return line. If anyone has a sketch or diagram of the new Swagelock port valve I will appreciate it. Does the Swagelock valve port both the Hi side and the Low side to the return at the same time? My 320 is working fine with the straight dump setup. I am trying to understand the Legacy reasons for the Swagelock. Jim Auman --------------------------------- Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. --0-742180697-1186013792=:44088 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Jim,
The straght ball valve was not designed to handle the pressure of the systems in our airplanes. Swagelock valves will handle the pressure. As for the return line, I have heard no talk of this on the 235,320/360 airplanes until now. I was planning to do this due to some issues I have had with my system building pressure in the hot sun. When I went to leave OSH both gear gauges read 1050 lbs.  If I had taken off in that condition, the gear would not have come up as the gear up swich would open due to the pressure being over it's limits. Tthis has happend to me before when I was in Vegas. If I had a return line to the resevoir I could open the dump valve and 0 the pressure. I went under the airplane with a 9/16 wrench and cracked one of the high pressure fittings and released the pressure. This is a pain and I intend to add a 3 way valve and return line as soon as practicle.
Hope that helps.
 
Randy L. Snarr
235/320
Salt Lake City, Utah

Jim Auman <jimauman@comcast.net> wrote:
Folks, I am wondering when the Gear Dump Valve was changed and why from the straight ball valve to the Swagelock with a return line to the reservoir.
 
The Legacy hydraulic diagram shows the return line to the Oildyne reservoir.  Our older 320 series do not show anything but a Hi/Lo line system.
 
I’m just looking for a reason or what condition created a need for the return line.
 
If anyone has a sketch or diagram of the new Swagelock port valve I will appreciate it.
 
Does the Swagelock valve port both the Hi side and the Low side to the return at the same time?
 
My 320 is working fine with the straight dump setup.  I am trying to understand the Legacy reasons for the Swagelock.
 
Jim Auman


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