X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 18:14:12 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms048pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.48] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2197050 for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 17:27:41 -0400 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.252.48; envelope-from=sbej@verizon.net Received: from VALUED3253602F ([71.109.169.202]) by vms048.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JLP00IMLCWZQOS1@vms048.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Tue, 24 Jul 2007 16:26:59 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2007 14:27:01 -0700 From: "sbej" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Elevator Controls X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Message-id: <014801c7ce39$605bb8b0$6602a8c0@VALUED3253602F> MIME-version: 1.0 X-MIMEOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3138 X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3138 Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0145_01C7CDFE.B34A0B70" X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-priority: Normal References: This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0145_01C7CDFE.B34A0B70 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Rob, I didn't mean the Bob Weight was directly over the pivot bolt. I meant = the Fwd Push tube Rod end was directly below the Pivot Bolt when i did = the dimensions for the aft tube. Because of this the aft tube is too = short. What the plans should say is not to worry about where the FWD = push tube rod end bolt is as long as its accessible thru the cut out in = some area of the stick movement. And rather focus on getting the bob = weight as low as possible with out hitting the rear tube and use that as = a measurement for cutting the rear tube to length. Since I followed the = plans without really researching it I ended up cutting my aft tube about = 1" too short.=20 I agree with you what is another $100 in the grand scheme. Its just = frustrating because this is the second one I will have messed up so its = really $200 for this one pushtube and the work involved building it. So = If its not necessary I really do not want to rebuild it. Chris, I am at the limit of my rod end adjustments and at the current set up = with bob weight on the underside like yours it hangs about 3/4" off the = rear tube with Full fwd stick. =20 At full aft stick the bob weight does not interfer with any bulkheads = and does not hit the tube so I think Im good. Appreciate all the input. Bryan ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Gary Edwards=20 To: lml@lancaironline.net=20 Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 2:11 PM Subject: [LML] Re: Elevator Controls Thanks for the input guys. I talked to Lancair today and the problem = is that since I followed the set up in my plans it ends up with the =20 after pushrod being too short. So I either have to make my aft =20 pushrod longer (costs about $100 in parts and shipping) or I did take = my bob weight and mounted it on the underside of the bellcrank arms. =20 This brings the mass lower and closer to the pushrod. Lancair =20 didn't see anything wrong with doing this. Anybody have any comments = on this approach? Bryan At the other end of the elevator travel with the bob-weight arm up = high, will it be in conflict with the rear bulkhead hat shelf and = close-out panel? Gary Edwards LNC2 N21SN Medford, Oregon ------=_NextPart_000_0145_01C7CDFE.B34A0B70 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi Rob,
I didn't mean the Bob Weight was directly over = the pivot=20 bolt.  I meant the Fwd Push tube Rod end was directly below the = Pivot Bolt=20 when i did the dimensions for the aft tube.  Because of this the = aft tube=20 is too short.  What the plans should say is not to worry about = where the=20 FWD push tube rod end bolt is as long as its accessible thru the cut out = in some=20 area of the stick movement. And rather focus on getting the bob weight = as low as=20 possible with out hitting the rear tube and use that as a measurement = for=20 cutting the rear tube to length.  Since I followed the plans = without=20 really researching it I ended up cutting my aft tube about 1" too short. =
I agree with you what is another $100 in the = grand=20 scheme.  Its just frustrating because this is the second one I will = have=20 messed up so its really $200 for this one pushtube and the work involved = building it.  So If its not necessary I really do not want to = rebuild=20 it.
 
Chris,
I am at the limit of my rod end adjustments and = at the=20 current set up with bob weight on the underside like yours it hangs = about 3/4"=20 off the rear tube with Full fwd stick. 
At full aft stick the bob weight does not = interfer with=20 any bulkheads and does not hit the tube so I think Im good.
 
Appreciate all the input.
Bryan
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Gary=20 Edwards
Sent: Tuesday, July 24, 2007 = 2:11=20 PM
Subject: [LML] Re: Elevator=20 Controls

Thanks for the input guys.  I talked to Lancair today = and the=20 problem 
is that since I followed the set up in my plans it = ends up=20 with the 
after pushrod being too short.  So I either = have to=20 make my aft 
pushrod longer (costs about $100 in parts and = shipping)=20 or I did take 
my bob weight and mounted it on the underside = of the=20 bellcrank arms. 
This  brings the mass lower and closer = to the=20 pushrod.  Lancair 
didn't see anything wrong with doing=20 this.  Anybody have any comments 
on this=20 approach?
Bryan
 
At the other end of the elevator travel with the bob-weight arm = up high,=20 will it be in conflict with the rear bulkhead hat shelf and close-out=20 panel?
 
Gary Edwards
LNC2 N21SN
Medford, Oregon
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