X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 20:11:10 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from vms044pub.verizon.net ([206.46.252.44] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.10) with ESMTP id 2187418 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 12:33:32 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.46.252.44; envelope-from=sportform@cox.net Received: from [192.168.1.66] ([71.160.17.170]) by vms044.mailsrvcs.net (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-6.01 (built Apr 3 2006)) with ESMTPA id <0JLF001GGPXY0L87@vms044.mailsrvcs.net> for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Jul 2007 11:32:24 -0500 (CDT) X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2007 09:32:20 -0700 From: Barry Hancock Subject: Re: [LML] Re: OSH VFR Arrival In-reply-to: X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Message-id: <31D9D75A-EB6F-4861-88FA-BD7FC636ABD4@cox.net> MIME-version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v752.2) X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.752.2) Content-type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-41-397110577 References: --Apple-Mail-41-397110577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; delsp=yes; format=flowed On Jul 18, 2007, at 7:33 PM, Sky2high@aol.com wrote: > Barry, > > Great suggestions for the VFR arrival at OSH. It actually > triggered another that I haven't thought about for a while since I > have flown in with the Cup racers over the last few years. Lancair > pilots don't normally fly much straight-and-level at 135 KIAS. > Normal flights are either at high cruise speeds or 100-110 Knots in > the pattern setting up for the landing. One thing to do before > getting to OSH is to go out and practice some slow flight to get a > feeling for the mushiness in that regime. Amen, Grayhawk! There was a thread on the list pertaining to the Legacies and flying 100 KIAS until short final. Not to re-hash it, but...eegads! If you are going into OSH and you're not comfortable handling your airplane @ 90 KIAS then in my mind you have two choices: 1) Get comfortable with it....the plane is perfectly capable. 2) Drive I'm not trying to be glib here, but the LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is have circumstance (lots of traffic, unexpected maneuvers by numbskulls, unusual controller requests due to afore mentioned circumstances, etc.) put them in a flight regime they're not comfortable with - that is when the bad stuff happens. Obviously the 135 kt. arrival is much preferable.....but circumstances may leave you in an unexpected place. Do you know how much back pressure you can safely apply at 90 knots and 30 degrees of bank? Base to final at 500' AGL isn't the place to find out. Hope to see y'all there! Barry --Apple-Mail-41-397110577 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1

On Jul 18, 2007, = at 7:33 PM, Sky2high@aol.com = wrote:

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Great suggestions for the VFR arrival at OSH.=A0= It actually triggered another that I haven't thought about for a while = since I have flown in with the Cup racers over=A0the last few years.=A0 = Lancair pilots don't normally fly much straight-and-level at 135 KIAS.=A0 = Normal flights are either at high cruise speeds or 100-110 Knots in the = pattern setting up for the landing.=A0 One thing to do before getting to = OSH is to go out and practice some slow flight to get a feeling for the = mushiness in that = regime.

Amen, = Grayhawk!=A0 There was a thread on the list pertaining to the Legacies = and flying 100 KIAS until short final.=A0 Not to re-hash it, = but...eegads!=A0 If you are going into OSH and you're not comfortable = handling your airplane @ 90 KIAS then in my mind you have two = choices:

1)=A0 = Get comfortable with it....the plane is perfectly capable.=A0 = =A0

2)=A0 Drive

I'm not trying to be glib = here, but the LAST thing anyone needs to be doing is have circumstance = (lots of traffic, unexpected maneuvers by numbskulls, unusual controller = requests due to afore mentioned circumstances, etc.) put them in a = flight regime they're not comfortable with - that is when the bad stuff = happens.=A0=A0

Obviously the 135 kt. = arrival is much preferable.....but circumstances may leave you in an = unexpected place.=A0 =A0Do you know how much back pressure you can = safely apply at 90 knots and 30 degrees of bank?=A0 Base to final at = 500' AGL isn't the place to find out.

Hope to see y'all = there!

Barry

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