Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #42402
From: Lancair <lancair-esp@ustek.com>
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Subject: RE: [LML] Re: TSIO 550 LOP
Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 16:49:23 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>
Following this thread I have read a lot about pilots flying behind a TSIO550 and burning 17.5 gph.  My ES-P (7.5 CR) flys at FL250 set at 31.5" and 2500 rpm, burning 15.5-16.0 gph LoP and showing a TAS of 230+kt.  I have a LightSpeed dual EI system and turn an MT 4-blade prop.
 
Robert M. Simon
ES-P N301ES
 


From: PTACKABURY@aol.com [mailto:PTACKABURY@aol.com]
Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2007 11:00 PM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: Re: [LML] Re: TSIO 550 LOP

In a message dated 5/29/2007 11:10:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, walter@advancedpilot.com writes:
OK, Paul, let's review the issue.  

Compression ratio:
The higher CR WILL ALWAYS result in a lower EGT/TIT if all else is held constant.  Why?  Boyle's Law.  PV = nRT.  As the volume expands, the gas temperature goes down.  More expansion; more temp loss = lower EGT.
Walter:
There is no issue here to review, so please step away from the tutorial podium.  I fat fingered my previous email and met 17.5 rather than 7.5 so I was intending to compare a rate to a rate.  Your simplistic physics above is all just dandy, but all else is never held constant.  The timing recommended by the engine builder for a 8.5 and 7.5 are different, the MP is different to recapture some of the detonation margin and so on.  All this has little to do with my original question which was at the same rate of consumption of a precious resource, disposable income, what sort of KIAS are LIV drivers achieving.  You said in a previous email that a typical cruise fuel flow LOP for the TSIO-550 is 17.5 gph so fine, what indicated airspeeds are we seeing and if anyone now cares, if there are differences what accounts for those differences.  If higher CRs are more fuel efficient as has been stated by many, well I would expect to see LIVs equip with those engines cruising at 17.5gph attaining a higher indicated airspeed.  I chose KIAS because I thought it would simplify data collection.  Simple stuff, and since I did not spend my time building a test stand, meaningful stuff at least for me.
paul




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