X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:54 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.9) with ESMTP id 2073997 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:17:29 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.68; envelope-from=rtitsworth@mindspring.com DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=mindspring.com; b=BOci/zAIWoNbmM+L0qwj1ARTyr+/yoeis4uCbvhN45JAFeJMmDiK9uAhn2cH1uPU; h=Received:From:To:Subject:Date:Message-ID:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:X-Mailer:In-Reply-To:Thread-Index:X-MimeOLE:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [66.167.214.103] (helo=RDTVAIO) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HtGYF-0008Kw-LI for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 30 May 2007 01:16:51 -0400 From: "rtitsworth" X-Original-To: "'Lancair Mailing List'" Subject: RE: [LML] Re: Sonic Valves X-Original-Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 01:16:34 -0400 X-Original-Message-ID: <00a201c7a279$b131ec50$84affea9@RDTVAIO> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 In-Reply-To: Thread-Index: AceiHKJaqM5tD7ckRZC1S77IxXiq/wAWuN9A X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 X-ELNK-Trace: b17f11247b2ac8f0a79dc4b33984cbaa0a9da525759e2654738d8f5c0058e0438a1656738428c87ed16aef77543258d0350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 66.167.214.103 I believe the potential compressor stall problem can occur if all (hot and cold) sonic nozzles are plugged. It would "seem" than plugging the hot nozzles would be "ok" as long as you don't set the mixer to hot (which then also plugs the cold ones). My (limited) understanding is that the std TCM TSIO-550E Turbo system is designed to need the sonic leakage (either hot or cold). The waste gate controller is not responsive enough (and/or the typical exhaust back pressure too high and/or the turbo momentum too great) and without the leakage, the inflow can become too slow for the rapidly spinning compressor blades, which increases their effective AOA, and they stall (similar to a wing with high AOA). My understanding is perhaps overly simplified (and/or potentially wrong/confused). Would love to be set straight if so. Rick -----Original Message----- From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of billhogarty ...Also, I was not aware of a possible compressor problem if the hot air outlets were blocked. Maybe the ADA folks could clarify.