Check the mixer box press fitting on the
selector shaft. This bearing is pressed with a shoulder on the inside of
the box holding the plastic slide valve to the mixer box face. If this
bearing wears loose, the bearing allows the plastic slide to move from the face
of the box and hot air escapes around it and enters the cabin. You may be
hearing the bearing giving way. I cannot answer how it might return
to the correct position at the end of the flight but it might be the spring
tension pulling it in as it cools. I finally reversed the bearing block
and machined a retainer on the outside of the box for the bearing to pull
against. I removed the spring and tightened the block down fairly
tight. I have flown with this arrangement for over 150 hours and it has
been solid. Hope this helps.
Pat Brunner
-----Original Message-----
From: Lancair Mailing List
[mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of Jeffrey
Liegner, MD
Sent: Monday, May 28, 2007 5:42 AM
To: lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] LIVP Turbo Air
Changes after ~2 Hours Cross County
I've taken two longer cross country flights >3 hrs)
lately and have experienced a change in turbo air temp suddenly after ~2 hours
flight time. It has happend four times now, so there seems to be a
pattern.
Decribing the set up: standard "mixing box" on
upper center firewall with dual inputs: hot air siphoned off the turbos (dual
merged via scat before the box), and a single scat cooler air coming after the
third intercooler, using three sonic nozzles total , all going into this
box. A pull cable on the panel runs through the firewall to the lever on
the front of the box: pushed in cable moves the lever towards pilot side for
cooler air, pulled cable pulls the lever towards copilot side for hot
air. During all flights the cable was stationary and pushed in...solidly.
If one pulls cable during flight, the air temperature
coming into the cable changes (as expected), pressurization does not budge, and
the noise level in the cabin does not change (this will be notably important).
About two hours into the flight, with cabin
pressurized (4-5 psi differential), cool air selected, cable fully in, I hear
this "thwap" sound suddenly coming from the front (after the first
time, the initial shock of such a noise in the mid-teens has worn off).
The inlet temperature entering the cabin via the mixing box's inside opening is
immediately higher (and the cabin temp begins to rise). The ambient noise
in the cockpit increases noticeably, making communications a bit more difficult
for ATC to hear, plus bringing the Bose mic closer to the squelch
threshold. Pressurization does not change, as observed on the cabin
altimeter (Duke's System). To give you a sense of incoming temp, the
internal avionics temp sensor in the Chelton (GRT) EAU shows the component increases
from ~100* to ~132*F in 20-30 minutes. There is no change in smell
or odor.
If I pull and push the mixing box temperature select
cable (whether this is done before the "thwap" or afterwards), it
pulls normally and returns full-in normally. Pressurization does not
change, temperature increases with pull and returns to the recently observed
higher temp when fully in. Cabin ambient noise level does not change with
this pull/push.
Is there
some sort of seal or gasket or flapper inside this brass colored anodized
"mixing box" that might be yielding after the engine compartment
heats the box up, allowing hotter compressed air to sneak around and join the
cooler air? I realize that the innards of this device
are unknown to me (which I never like to admit about anything on the plane).
Also note that when I land, pull the cowling, inspect
hoses and cables and position of the levers (both the hot/cool lever and the
cabin dump bypass lever), all appear in normal position. Having not
changed anything, if I resume the flight, the temperature is again at its
normal cooler level. It's as if once the turbos stop pushing on whatever
"thwap"d, the coller air is no longer getting mixed with hotter air.
I had first concluded the hot/cool lever on the box
was somehow slipping just a wee-bit from its fully pushed over "cool"
position due to some flex in the cable, so yesterday (after the outbound
flight) I tie wrapped the lever tightly in the "cool" position to
secure it for the flight home. When the "thwap" occurred again,
I thought the tie wrap must have quit on me, but inspection after the flight
confirmed the tie wrap was in a well secure and stable position.
I have tried to meticulously describe the conditions
and experience. Being there and hearing the "thwap" and noting
ambient noise and temperature increase can not be recreated even with careful
recollection and descriptives, but I hope this has explained the events.
Jeff Liegner (always debugging something, 51 hours)