X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:25:27 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [206.229.254.14] (HELO smtp.perigee.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTP id 2036050 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:23:59 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=206.229.254.14; envelope-from=jschroeder@perigee.net Received: from john-study-2 (dsl-208-26-41-163.perigee.net [208.26.41.163]) by smtp.perigee.net (8.12.10/8.12.10) with ESMTP id l4AFNLKd027135 for ; Thu, 10 May 2007 11:23:22 -0400 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" Subject: Re: [LML] Re: IO-550 fuel injection References: X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Thu, 10 May 2007 11:23:10 -0400 From: "John Schroeder" Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; delsp=yes; charset=iso-8859-15 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Opera M2/8.54 (Win32, build 7730) Rick - Remind me to hire you for any kind of troubleshooting on our airplane. Excellent and thoughtful listing of hypotheses/checklist items for Eugene, and all of us to look into. Cheers, John On Thu, 10 May 2007 09:51:27 -0400, rtitsworth wrote: > Eugene, > > First a couple silly thoughts (which don't seem to apply since it > mysteriously now works again), but seemed like potential learning > opportunities (for me anyway). > > 1. Does anyone know the failure modes of the electric boost pump? I > know/believe it is a free flow design but if it's impeller/diaphragm (???) > fails "could' it cause a restriction? > > 1b. How does the Dukes pump work? Anyone have an exploded view diagram for > future reference? > > 2. What is the behavior of a plugged (or partially plugged) gas collator? > Is it a potential restriction? > > 3. Is your collator drain easily accessible? Do you drain/sump it every > flight? Ever get any H20 from it? Do you disassemble/inspect it at annual > CI? > > > A couple other questions; > > 4. Does your wing tip fuel vent line make a vertical turn before going to > the tank (so water would have to go uphill). > > 5. Were your fuel tanks both full (maximum gravitational head pressure)? If > not, any chance for similar high h20 condensation on the inside - partially > restricting the gas collator? > > 6. What was the approx temp on the ground? (I'm assuming it wasn't too hot > yet at 8:30am) Any idea of the temp enroute? (I'm assuming no bizarre > atmospheric phenomenon, and 8500 doesn't seem all that high anyway from a > fuel vaporization standpoint). Also assuming normal 100LL fuel. > > 7. What were your approximate cruise power settings and fuel flow at the > time (assuming 25"ish MP, 2400/2500'ish RPM and less than 20 GHP? > > 8. Do you have the original ES fuel-line set-up (sharp 90' fittings at the > tanks, flex line to the fuselage wall, sharp 90' bulkhead fittings, 3/8" > hard line to the selector (Andair), more sharp 90' fittings at the selector, > 3/8" line to the boost pump (Dukes) and to the collator (old Lancair style > vs Andair collator). > > 9. Where is you boost pump located and how is it oriented? (assuming it's in > the cabin, on the lower firewall, oriented vertically) > > 10. When the pressure/flow when to zero, did the engine stumble/quit? > (trying to rule out any sort of engine monitor/gauge error) > > 11. Assuming nothing else unique/abnormal about the flight (gross weight, > other???) > > 12. Really bizarre thought... Could a restriction in the engine fuel pump > vapor return line cause it to stop flowing and leave the engine pump > cavitating (not able to prime)? Does anyone know approx how much > fuel/vapor cycles back through that circuit (under normal conditions)? > > Rick > > > -----Original Message----- > From: On Behalf Of glong2 > Subject: [LML] Re: IO-550 fuel injection > > I would like to share an experience I had with what I believe is a fuel line > vent problem on my ES. > > > > -- > For archives and unsub http://mail.lancaironline.net:81/lists/lml/List.html > >