Mailing List lml@lancaironline.net Message #41995
From: Joe Trepicone <jtrepicone@trepicone.com>
Sender: <marv@lancaironline.net>
Subject: RE: [LML] Joe T's fuel system
Date: Wed, 09 May 2007 15:55:56 -0400
To: <lml@lancaironline.net>

The header tank was conceived to help protect against inadvertent, short term un-porting of fuel and not as an auxiliary fuel tank.  I wanted it to be as simple as I could make it and as close to the standard Lancair system as possible.  I have a lot of faith in Lancair. 

I believe you are correct.  If I fly around for 6 minutes or so while header tank runs dry, air will enter the FCU and I’ll undoubtedly be making an emergency landing.  But on the bright side, if I’m able to fly around all that time and my fuel pickup can’t find any fuel during that entire time, I doubt that I’ll have to worry about landing with fuel in my belly tank.

 

The fuel system you are describing actually does exist and it’s currently flying on at least one IVPT with several others flying soon.  It’s produced as a kit by Diemech Turbine Solution Group (the same people who supply engines) and it’s been engineered by Chris Skoppe.  It incorporates a low flow, low pressure, fuel pump that transfers fuel out of the belly and into the left wing.  Among other things, the kit has a small, stainless steel, header tank, mounted on the fire wall with an integrated fuel filter.  My standard parts came from Lancair of course but many others were purchased from Chris.  I found he’s always willing to help.  The system can bee seen on their web site.

www.diemechturbinesolution.com

Joe

 

 

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Wednesday, May 09, 2007 11:34 AM
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Subject: [LML] Joe T's fuel system

 

Thinking more about Joe T's fuel system.

Excellent way to purge air out of the system. BUT, it is a pretty long pipe run from the aft baggage to the engine.

How do you get rid of that air? In other words, if the header ever gets empty for any reason, air purges great up to the header.

Then you have a 7 or 8 ft run of pipe to the engine. How do you purge that air?

The air will have to go through the engine, and you will get a non start or a very delayed start. Probably delayed enough

that the wheels will already be decending in rotations as the batteries will start to pull down. Then you have inertia against you

instead of with you and that is a good way to get a hot start.

Ok, good fuel system if the small header was moved as close to the engine as possible,

like on the firewall or attached to the engine mount in the FCU area.

 

Keeping it aft, without a way to purge air from the header to the engine sounds like BIG trouble to me.

 

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