X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 12:50:30 -0400 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from global.delionsden.com ([66.150.29.112] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.8) with ESMTPS id 1993972 for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:54:50 -0400 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=66.150.29.112; envelope-from=n103md@yahoo.com Received: from bmackey by global.delionsden.com with local (Exim 4.62) (envelope-from ) id 1HeYx0-0006fc-4K for lml@lancaironline.net; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:53:38 -0400 Received: from 69.12.132.145 ([69.12.132.145]) (SquirrelMail authenticated user bmackey) by www.bmackey.com with HTTP; Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:53:38 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Message-ID: <8691.69.12.132.145.1176998018.squirrel@www.bmackey.com> X-Original-Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2007 08:53:38 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [LML] turn-around altitude From: "bob mackey" X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net User-Agent: SquirrelMail/1.4.8 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain;charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Priority: 3 (Normal) Importance: Normal X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - global.delionsden.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lancaironline.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [32015 2012] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - yahoo.com X-Source: X-Source-Args: X-Source-Dir: Kevin K asks > Some questions: > > 1. What was the Prop set-up. wind milling? Yes, windmilling. I have not stopped the prop to determine the change in glide angle. Will do that someday when I'm over Castle air force base (MER) and its' 11,800 foot runway. > 2. What was your decent rate in FPM? About 500 fpm wings level, and 700-1000 fpm in the turn. > 3. Fuel situation? Low fuel, about 8 gal in the header and wings about 3 gal. > 4. One or two passengers? Pilot only, no passenger. So gross weight was about... 1030 empty 66 fuel 10 oil 25 airplane's junk 130 pilot 10 pilot's junk ===== 1271 lbs, well below the max gross of 1700 lbs. At 1700 lbs, expect to be 15% faster and to have a flatter climb angle. The flatter climb angle will actually improve the situtation by reducing the need to fly away from the field before turning back. But it will also degrade the handling and the landing speed considerably. Until I check the actual turnaround with a heavy load, I will round the altitudes up a bit. Again, at my home field, the straight-ahead options are not very attractive. A partial return is no worse than crashing straight ahead as long as the descent is arrested and the speed minimized at impact.