X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 20:00:02 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net ([209.86.89.68] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1913936 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:59:26 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.86.89.68; envelope-from=liegner@earthlink.net DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=dk20050327; d=earthlink.net; b=KRtY6TNm8qGMdjqVU+zf+DyiN3AsMXAuNbJt5EezFWu4BjbiQDwfUCw5ZgyZW/YG; h=Received:Mime-Version:X-Sender:Message-Id:In-Reply-To:References:Date:To:From:Subject:Content-Type:X-ELNK-Trace:X-Originating-IP; Received: from [69.68.166.75] (helo=[172.16.1.4]) by elasmtp-masked.atl.sa.earthlink.net with asmtp (Exim 4.34) id 1HQBSO-0006CB-Uj; Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:58:37 -0500 Mime-Version: 1.0 X-Sender: liegner@earthlink.net@pop.earthlink.net X-Original-Message-Id: In-Reply-To: References: X-Original-Date: Sat, 10 Mar 2007 18:58:23 -0500 X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" From: "Jeffrey Liegner, MD" Subject: Re: how much is "enough" runway Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="============_-1038551380==_ma============" X-ELNK-Trace: edc6c9c2805b57e3d780f4a490ca69563f9fea00a6dd62bcf1d72ce79d8f272bb7738e074f079897350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c350badd9bab72f9c X-Originating-IP: 69.68.166.75 --============_-1038551380==_ma============ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" ; format="flowed" Winter 3000' is different than summer 3000'. Sea Level 3000' is different than mountain 3000'. Sea Level 3000' in the 70's *F is my minimum right now. Hot summer afternoons could push this to 5000'. Get HPAT training. Jeff L N334P (LIVP) PS Tires and Brakes are cheap; important when yuo need them. >Gents: > >I hope to be finishing up my IVP in the next couple of months and >REALLY look forward to flying it for the first time. I have zero >IVP time. > >Meanwhile, I'm moving to the Seattle area and am shopping for a hangar. > >There are a variety of air patches in the area but some have pretty >short runways like between 2000 and 2500 feet. > >I know that a IVP is a slick bird and long runways are nice. So as >I shop for a new airport, would you old/experienced guys recommend a >certain minimum runway length? > >Thanks in advance, > >John Hafen > > >John, > >What is your background and experience flying? Are you experienced >and current in high performance single engine piston aircraft now or >are you transitioning from an MD 80? I do not recommend any new LIVP >pilot to start with less than 5000' x 100' DRY (at sea level/ >standard day) runway with clear approaches and a VASI/ PAPI visual >glide slope indicator system. > >A 3000' dry is my absolute minimum after spending a long time >building up to it. I do not recommend anyone start with that. But >that is only on a good day with everything going in my favor. > >When you get your aircraft flying practice to see how much runway >you need to get it stopped comfortably and the double that number >for those occasional bad days. Call if you have any questions >636-532-5638. > >Best Regards, > >Jeff Edwards >MCFI > > > --============_-1038551380==_ma============ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Re: how much is "enough" runway
Winter 3000' is different than summer 3000'.  Sea Level 3000' is different than mountain 3000'.

Sea Level 3000' in the 70's *F is my minimum right now.  Hot summer afternoons could push this to 5000'.

Get HPAT training.

Jeff L
N334P (LIVP)

PS  Tires and Brakes are cheap;  important when yuo need them.



Gents:
 
I hope to be finishing up my IVP in the next couple of months and REALLY look forward to flying it for the first time.  I have zero IVP time.
 
Meanwhile, Iım moving to the Seattle area and am shopping for a hangar.
 
There are a variety of air patches in the area but some have pretty short runways like between 2000 and 2500 feet.
 
I know that a IVP is a slick bird and long runways are nice.  So as I shop for a new airport, would you old/experienced guys recommend a certain minimum runway length?
 
Thanks in advance,
 
John Hafen
 
 

John,
 
What is your background and experience flying?  Are you experienced and current in high performance single engine piston aircraft now or are you transitioning from an MD 80? I do not recommend any new LIVP pilot to start with less than 5000' x 100'  DRY (at sea level/ standard day) runway with clear approaches and a VASI/ PAPI visual glide slope indicator system.
 
A 3000' dry is my absolute minimum after spending a long time building up to it. I do not recommend anyone start with that. But that is only on a good day with everything going in my favor.
 
When you get your aircraft flying practice to see how much runway you need to get it stopped comfortably and the double that number for those occasional bad days. Call if you have any questions 636-532-5638.
 
Best Regards,
 
Jeff Edwards
MCFI
 


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