X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 2 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Fri, 09 Mar 2007 18:06:18 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from [216.170.230.169] (HELO proxyfep11.sec.tds.net) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with ESMTP id 1912125 for lml@lancaironline.net; Fri, 09 Mar 2007 17:48:38 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=216.170.230.169; envelope-from=geneandvangie@tds.net Received: from your27e1513d96 ([72.185.37.233]) by proxyfep11.sec.tds.net with SMTP id <20070309224749.HDGB4517.proxyfep11.sec.tds.net@your27e1513d96> for ; Fri, 9 Mar 2007 16:47:49 -0600 X-Original-Message-ID: <010101c7629c$ef89e380$6b01a8c0@your27e1513d96> From: "Gene Underland" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" References: Subject: Re: [LML] Re: how much is "enough" runway X-Original-Date: Fri, 9 Mar 2007 17:47:36 -0500 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.3028 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.3028 >How would you contrast that with the ES/ES-P requirements? >Robert M. Simon We checked out in a Lancair IV with HPAT before flying our ES. They said all speeds in pattern would be 20 knots less than the IV for our ES. We always had runway in front of us when we would turn off the runway after landing. Sebring is 5190 feet. Since getting used to the ES, I have landed on a 1500 foot portion of a paved section on a 3000'grass runway and sometimes stop before the end and sometimes run off onto the grass. I have worked off a 2500 foot grass runway with no problem. 2 people and low on fuel. This is only after gaining experiance in the ES. I prefer a mile of hard surface. Gene Underland