X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 10 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 16:02:50 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from web60022.mail.yahoo.com ([209.73.178.70] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.7) with SMTP id 1874551 for lml@lancaironline.net; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:51:48 -0500 Received-SPF: none receiver=logan.com; client-ip=209.73.178.70; envelope-from=mattreeves@yahoo.com Received: (qmail 12747 invoked by uid 60001); 28 Feb 2007 19:50:57 -0000 DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; q=dns; c=nofws; s=s1024; d=yahoo.com; h=X-YMail-OSG:Received:Date:From:Subject:To:In-Reply-To:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:Message-ID; b=acDd8BgEfxvoPYjpM2IlgGV9FpMV2LdoeKZyqUOx4YJ6VuVdZ9MyWJo2fvWIVQ9tLI+3VkKm3Yfdm+DUqeGdh+o9R0eL/6R9smrzlPKx+fZ5eTUWCEdo5/dfJt37q42Bd4xeUO/QYqTMDWhgilvd7pd3MKH8jJ6klHChNmrpmYA=; X-YMail-OSG: pMyxD_cVM1mGHzRL9F4sTgNVsmH39LUqZ1UDDFRRBwWF6wEYFOeVsQDhIvothAu5d.bn3kkOXTUmt.49ZX7zAVHwrJOw8.2PE0UsrER6eolEkBUjw6kc.l.oEQAB4wlZgg3wo5yvJ0w5kS3c.2omVvjX.Cw- Received: from [70.96.122.92] by web60022.mail.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:50:57 PST X-Original-Date: Wed, 28 Feb 2007 11:50:57 -0800 (PST) From: Matt Reeves Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Stupid Pilot, stupid people X-Original-To: Lancair Mailing List In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0-1545253686-1172692257=:10115" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Original-Message-ID: <495755.10115.qm@web60022.mail.yahoo.com> --0-1545253686-1172692257=:10115 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Jim, Have a sense of humor. Seems we all lost that over the years since Marv's first posting. We all agree to use as much common sense as possible and safety is number one - no pilot wants to kill themselves or worse - others. This is the best thing about the list - to learn from others and better yet, make that learning enjoyable! Matt Jim Scales wrote: This thread has brought some interesting pilot qualities out for discussion. Macho posturing, marital issues, common sense, consideration for others (or lack of) and several others, some that foster good piloting and some that don’t. As for me, I usually tell my wife when I am going flying. I normally, but not always, call her when I have returned. She likes flying but mostly does it because I do it. Anything that increases her comfort level where the airplane is concerned would seem to be a benefit to both of us. On any other than a local flight, I will be on an IFR plan or be in contact with ATC for VFR flight following. That way, someone knows where I am and what I am doing. If I am flying in other than relatively perfect conditions, such as weather or at night, I will call her and tell her things went well when I arrive at my destination. My family trusts me and I do what I think I should to be considerate of our relationship and continue to nurture that trust. I do not think it infringes on my image as a good pilot or somehow makes me appear weak. On the contrary, I believe it keeps my family involved in the aviation community and willing to fly when given the chance. In reading this thread I have been bothered by some of the postings. I don’t think the "it's my life, I will do what I want when I want and it is no one's business where I am or how I got there" (my words, my impression, not a quote) attitude is conducive to good piloting. It sounds macho and somewhat risk immune. I know a couple of pilots like this and I wouldn’t fly with them. I suggest that those who see themselves in this description reexamine their motivation and consider adjusting away from the extreme positions they are espousing. Just my opinion...........let the flaming continue. Jim Scales --------------------------------- It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. --0-1545253686-1172692257=:10115 Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Jim,
 
Have a sense of humor.  Seems we all lost that over the years since Marv's first posting.  We all agree to use as much common sense as possible and safety is number one - no pilot wants to kill themselves or worse - others.
 
This is the best thing about the list - to learn from others and better yet, make that learning enjoyable!
 
Matt
 

Jim Scales <joscales98@hotmail.com> wrote:
This thread has brought some interesting pilot qualities out for discussion.
 
Macho posturing, marital issues, common sense, consideration for others (or lack of) and several others, some that foster good piloting and some that don’t.
 
As for me, I usually tell my wife when I am going flying.  I normally, but not always, call her when I have returned.  She likes flying but mostly does it because I do it.  Anything that increases her comfort level where the airplane is concerned would seem to be a benefit to both of us.
 
On any other than a local flight, I will be on an IFR plan or be in contact with ATC for VFR flight following.  That way, someone knows where I am and what I am doing.
 
If I am flying in other than relatively perfect conditions, such as weather or at night, I will call her and tell her things went well when I arrive at my destination. 
 
My family trusts me and I do what I think I should to be considerate of our relationship and continue to nurture that trust.  I do not think it infringes on my image as a good pilot or somehow makes me appear weak.  On the contrary, I believe it keeps my family involved in the aviation community and willing to fly when given the chance.
 
In reading this thread I have been bothered by some of the postings.  I don’t think the "it's my life, I will do what I want when I want and it is no one's business where I am or how I got there" (my words, my impression, not a quote) attitude is conducive to good piloting.  It sounds macho and somewhat risk immune.  I know a couple of pilots like this and I wouldn’t fly with them.  I suggest that those who see themselves in this description reexamine their motivation and consider adjusting away from the extreme positions they are espousing. 
 
Just my opinion...........let the flaming continue.
 
Jim Scales
 
 
 
 

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