X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 30 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml@lancaironline.net Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:33:24 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from mis005-1.exch005intermedia.net ([64.78.61.124] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1860248 for lml@lancaironline.net; Sat, 24 Feb 2007 11:14:02 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=64.78.61.124; envelope-from=johnwcox@pacificnw.com Received: from ehost005-2.exch005intermedia.net ([64.78.21.103]) by mis005-1.exch005intermedia.net with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.1830); Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:13:07 -0800 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.5 Content-class: urn:content-classes:message MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C7582E.ABCCD1D2" Subject: RE: [LML] Fuelling & Grounding X-Original-Date: Sat, 24 Feb 2007 08:13:07 -0800 X-Original-Message-ID: In-Reply-To: X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [LML] Fuelling & Grounding Thread-Index: AcdYENEvY7GH4fyVTUOjRx6BA79H5gAHTjyQ References: From: "John W. Cox" X-Original-To: "Lancair Mailing List" X-Original-Return-Path: johnwcox@pacificnw.com X-OriginalArrivalTime: 24 Feb 2007 16:13:07.0873 (UTC) FILETIME=[ABE0E110:01C7582E] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7582E.ABCCD1D2 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Repeating my earlier post. Our airline has composite aircraft and we always ground as the first course of action coming into the hangar and the last before tugging it out and back into service. I believe all aircraft not just composites should be grounded when in a structure without adequate fire suppression. =20 That said, the incident of self service automobile fires have jumped substantially over the last twenty years. I heard anecdotally that many were women wearing panty hose. So the moral is don't wear hose when refueling, polishing, sanding or painting in your hangar. I will be grounding my aircraft as a policy. My panty hose are another matter. =20 John Cox=20 ________________________________ From: Lancair Mailing List [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On Behalf Of James H. Keyworth Sent: Saturday, February 24, 2007 4:39 AM To: lml@lancaironline.net Subject: [LML] Fuelling & Grounding =20 After reading all the previous related comments, can I reasonably conclude that the safest method for fuelling a composite aircraft might be to attach the grounding lead from the fuel truck directly to the hinged fuel cap (neck & cap combination), or, in the case of a detaching filler cap, to have an attachment point on the rim of the tank neck itself? =20 If so, would this also work in situations of polishing, sanding, painting, et cetera? =20 JHK Legacy hopeful Still learning ------_=_NextPart_001_01C7582E.ABCCD1D2 Content-Type: text/html; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Repeating my earlier post. = Our airline has composite aircraft and we always ground as the first course of = action coming into the hangar and the last before tugging it out and back into = service. I believe all aircraft not just composites should be grounded when in a = structure without adequate fire suppression.

That said, the incident of self = service automobile fires have jumped substantially over the last twenty = years. I heard anecdotally that many were women wearing panty hose. So the moral = is don’t wear hose when refueling, polishing, sanding or painting in your = hangar. I will be grounding my aircraft as a policy. My panty hose are = another matter.

John = Cox

From: Lancair Mailing List = [mailto:lml@lancaironline.net] On = Behalf Of James H. Keyworth
Sent: Saturday, February = 24, 2007 4:39 AM
To: = lml@lancaironline.net
Subject: [LML] Fuelling = & Grounding

After reading all the = previous related comments, can I reasonably conclude that the safest method for = fuelling a composite aircraft might be to attach the grounding lead from the fuel = truck directly to the hinged fuel cap (neck & cap combination), or, in the = case of a detaching filler cap, to have an attachment point on the rim of the tank neck itself?

If so, would this also work in situations of polishing, sanding, painting, et = cetera?

JHK

Legacy = hopeful

Still = learning

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