X-Virus-Scanned: clean according to Sophos on Logan.com X-SpamCatcher-Score: 1 [X] Return-Path: Sender: To: lml Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:10:45 -0500 Message-ID: X-Original-Return-Path: Received: from imo-d20.mx.aol.com ([205.188.139.136] verified) by logan.com (CommuniGate Pro SMTP 5.1.6) with ESMTP id 1847897 for lml@lancaironline.net; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:08:38 -0500 Received-SPF: pass receiver=logan.com; client-ip=205.188.139.136; envelope-from=Sky2high@aol.com Received: from Sky2high@aol.com by imo-d20.mx.aol.com (mail_out_v38_r7.6.) id q.d1e.7b5f9ce (57317) for ; Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:07:36 -0500 (EST) From: Sky2high@aol.com X-Original-Message-ID: X-Original-Date: Mon, 19 Feb 2007 20:07:36 EST Subject: Re: [LML] Re: Non-failed Nylaflo brake lines X-Original-To: lml@lancaironline.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="-----------------------------1171933656" X-Mailer: 9.0 Security Edition for Windows sub 5358 X-Spam-Flag: NO -------------------------------1171933656 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit In a message dated 2/19/2007 5:52:39 P.M. Central Standard Time, brent@regandesigns.com writes: The only important fact is that they failed. Additionally, because there is no known, consistent flaw, you cannot design a strategy to address the problem. You do not know what the problem is so how can you say that your approach has fixed the problem? "It hasn't broken yet." can be said about all things until the moment of failure, when they fail. Brent, OK, I lied. Some failure modes were reported. Abrasion failure when passing thru partial rib. I've got that one covered (uh, no pun intended) by protectively covering the Nylaflo. Another reported failure at a kink. I've straightened that out (again, no pun intended) by making sure there will be no kink. Not to trivialize the point you make, but I have a desk top covered with failures that "hadn't broken yet" until they did. All of them are certified products - valves, a cylinder head, a magneto case, ARC radio, etc. Also, a few uncertified items laying around like a custom prop, a Lancair approved spinner back plate, yada, yada, yada. Vibration breaks everything it can, certified or not. Scott Sometimes I wish I were Grayhawk all the time. -------------------------------1171933656 Content-Type: text/html; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

In a message dated 2/19/2007 5:52:39 P.M. Central Standard Time,=20 brent@regandesigns.com writes:

<= FONT=20 style=3D"BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=3DArial color=3D#000000 size= =3D2>The only important fact is that they failed. Additionally, be= cause=20 there is no known, consistent flaw, you cannot design a strategy to addres= s=20 the problem. You do not know what the problem is so how can you say that y= our=20 approach has fixed the problem? "It hasn't broken yet." can be said=20 about all things until the moment of=20 failure, when they fail.=20

Brent,

OK, I lied. Some failure modes were reported. Abrasion fail= ure=20 when passing thru partial rib. I've got that one covered (uh, no pun=20 intended) by protectively covering the Nylaflo. Another reported failu= re=20 at a kink. I've straightened that out (again, no pun intended) by maki= ng=20 sure there will be no kink.

Not to trivialize the point you make, but I have a desk top covered wit= h=20 failures that "hadn't broken yet" until they did. All of them are=20 certified products - valves, a cylinder head, a magneto case, ARC radio= ,=20 etc. Also, a few uncertified items laying around like a custom pr= op,=20 a Lancair approved spinner back plate, yada, yada, yada.

Vibration breaks everything it can, certified or not.

Scott

Sometimes I wish I were Grayhawk all the time.

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